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This is the transcript of the open session of a hearing on unidentified aerial phenomena, held on 17 May 2022 by the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence's Subcommittee on Counterterrorism, Counterintelligence, and Counterproliferation. Under Secretary Ronald Moultrie and Deputy Director of Naval Intelligence Scott Bray testified on the new AOIMSG office, efforts to reduce stigma in reporting, and a UAP database of about 400 reports. Bray showed videos, explained flashing triangles as drones seen through night vision goggles, and called the 2004 Nimitz incident unresolved.
50 appeared to move with unusual pattern of flight characteristics, did some of those also emit radio frequency energy? Mr. Bray. I would to have check with our UAP Task Force on that. I believe -- without getting into specifics that we can do in the closed session -- at least some that we have detected RF emissions from were not behaving oddly otherwise. Mr. Schiff. And the significance of measuring that radio frequency energy is what, that we suspect that this was some form of aircraft in which there were radio transmissions? Mr. Bray. The biggest thing that you are looking for there is any indication of an effort to jam whatever sensors that we may have looking at it. Mr. Moultrie. But I would also add to that that radio frequency, as you know, Congressman is used to control various platforms too. So the fact of emanations coming off of any platform, whether it be a UAV or another platform, could be radio frequency activity related to that entity transmitting out or something transmitting to that platform, and, of course, we have a sensitivity with our airborne platforms of picking it up, which is one of the reasons that we try to prevent people from using their cell phones on airplanes and things like that. It is very sensitive to RF simulation. So that is a part of what we will be looking at in the AOIMSG. What is -- is this is this something we can collect on? And can we start to characterize the signaling environment around the emanations that may be coming off of some of these UAPs? Mr. Schiff. So that energy then that was recorded could be either an effort to jam, or it could be an effort to control UAV or any other communication with that craft? Mr. Moultrie. I would say that is accurate. Mr. Bray. Right. Mr. Schiff. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
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