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Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (hearing transcript, Subcommittee on Counterterrorism, Counterintelligence, and Counterproliferation, 17 May 2022)

House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence · 2022-05-17 · 53 pages · text from the file's own layer

This is the transcript of the open session of a hearing on unidentified aerial phenomena, held on 17 May 2022 by the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence's Subcommittee on Counterterrorism, Counterintelligence, and Counterproliferation. Under Secretary Ronald Moultrie and Deputy Director of Naval Intelligence Scott Bray testified on the new AOIMSG office, efforts to reduce stigma in reporting, and a UAP database of about 400 reports. Bray showed videos, explained flashing triangles as drones seen through night vision goggles, and called the 2004 Nimitz incident unresolved.

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be other things that we will look at in the future that we will need those same sensors,
we will need those same sources and methods to help us do. So we are protecting the
fact that this Nation has developed capabilities that enable us to know what may be
threats to us and to counter those threats before they become something of a national
issue.
Mr. Welch. Thank you very much. I want to thank you both you, Mr. Bray, and
you, Mr. Moultrie, for your appearance today.
I yield back.
Chairman Carson. The gentleman yields back.
Gentlemen, beyond videos, is there a range of other information that the
executive branch has that would be valuable to the American people while protecting
sources and methods, obviously? The details of individual encounters, including the
time, place, and details of an encounter? And does the AOIMSG have a clear and
repeatable process for considering public release as part of the process?
Mr. Bray. Chairman Carson, the --
Chairman Carson. And do you commit to building that process if it is not in
place?
Mr. Bray. The UAP Task Force, you know, the security classification guide that
UAP Task Force has been operating under that I approved really was meant to protect
those sources and methods and meant to protect any knowledge that an adversary
intelligence entity may gain from understanding what we are tracking, how we track it, or
when we are tracking it, or if we are not. And so that has been an important piece in
the balance between transparency and preserving our warfighting advantage because the
U.S. military does train as it would fight.
What I will commit to is at least for that material that is under my authority as a

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