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Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (hearing transcript, Subcommittee on Counterterrorism, Counterintelligence, and Counterproliferation, 17 May 2022)

House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence · 2022-05-17 · 53 pages · text from the file's own layer

This is the transcript of the open session of a hearing on unidentified aerial phenomena, held on 17 May 2022 by the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence's Subcommittee on Counterterrorism, Counterintelligence, and Counterproliferation. Under Secretary Ronald Moultrie and Deputy Director of Naval Intelligence Scott Bray testified on the new AOIMSG office, efforts to reduce stigma in reporting, and a UAP database of about 400 reports. Bray showed videos, explained flashing triangles as drones seen through night vision goggles, and called the 2004 Nimitz incident unresolved.

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these instances, Congressman.
Mr. Himes. Understood. Thank you very much.
I yield back.
Chairman Carson. The gentleman yields back.
Mr. Gallagher.
Mr. Gallagher. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank you for allowing me to join
this hearing. I really appreciate the witness's testimony.
Mr. Moultrie, as the chairman mentioned, DOD had initiative to study UFOs in the
1960s called Project Blue Book. It has also been well reported in our briefing and in
other places that we have more recent projects, specifically AATIP. Could you describe
any other initiatives that the DOD or DOD contractors have managed after Project Blue
Book ended and prior to AATIP beginning? Did anything also predate Project Blue Book?
Mr. Moultrie. So I can't speak to what may have predated Project Blue Book. I
mean, of course, there is Roswell and all these other things that people have talked about
over the years. I am familiar with Blue Book. I am familiar with AATIP. I haven't seen
other documented studies that have been done by DOD in that regard.
Mr. Gallagher. So you are not aware of anything between Project Blue Book and
AATIP.
Mr. Moultrie. Not aware of anything that is official that was done in between
those two.
Mr. Gallagher. Okay.
Mr. Moultrie. Hasn't been brought to my attention.
Mr. Gallagher. Okay. Additionally, are you aware of any other DOD or DOD
contract programs focused on UAPs from a technological engineering perspective? And
by that, I mean, are you aware of any technology initiatives focused on this topic, other

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