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Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (hearing transcript, Subcommittee on Counterterrorism, Counterintelligence, and Counterproliferation, 17 May 2022)

House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence · 2022-05-17 · 53 pages · text from the file's own layer

This is the transcript of the open session of a hearing on unidentified aerial phenomena, held on 17 May 2022 by the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence's Subcommittee on Counterterrorism, Counterintelligence, and Counterproliferation. Under Secretary Ronald Moultrie and Deputy Director of Naval Intelligence Scott Bray testified on the new AOIMSG office, efforts to reduce stigma in reporting, and a UAP database of about 400 reports. Bray showed videos, explained flashing triangles as drones seen through night vision goggles, and called the 2004 Nimitz incident unresolved.

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than initiatives focused on the individual case investigations?
Mr. Moultrie. I am not aware of any contractual programs that are focused on
any anything related to this, other than what we are doing in the Navy task force and
what we are about to launch in terms of our effort.
Mr. Gallagher. Same question for you, Mr. Bray.
Mr. Bray. Same answer. Not aware of anything outside what we are doing in
the UAP Task Force.
Mr. Gallagher. So, just to confirm, you are not aware of any technology or
engineering resources that have been focused on these efforts besides what we have
mentioned today.
Mr. Moultrie. Once again, I will say no contractual or programmatic efforts that
are involved. The reason why I qualify that --
Mr. Gallagher. Would you explain?
Mr. Moultrie. Yeah, let me qualify it that way. I can't speak to what people
may be looking at in the Department. Somebody says: I am looking at something, I am
looking at something that may be identified.
I can't speak to that. I speak to official programs that we have on the record.
Mr. Gallagher. It has also been reported that there have been UAP observed and
interacting with and flying over sensitive military facilities, not just ranges but some
facilities housing our strategic nuclear forces. One such incident allegedly occurred at
Malmstrom Air Force Base in which ten of our nuclear ICBMs were rendered inoperable.
At the same time, a glowing red orb was observed overhead.
I am not commenting on the accuracy of this. I am simply asking you whether
you are aware of it and whether you have any comment on the accuracy of that report.
Mr. Moultrie. Let me pass that to Mr. Bray. He has been looking UAPs for the

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