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Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (hearing transcript, Subcommittee on Counterterrorism, Counterintelligence, and Counterproliferation, 17 May 2022)

House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence · 2022-05-17 · 53 pages · text from the file's own layer

This is the transcript of the open session of a hearing on unidentified aerial phenomena, held on 17 May 2022 by the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence's Subcommittee on Counterterrorism, Counterintelligence, and Counterproliferation. Under Secretary Ronald Moultrie and Deputy Director of Naval Intelligence Scott Bray testified on the new AOIMSG office, efforts to reduce stigma in reporting, and a UAP database of about 400 reports. Bray showed videos, explained flashing triangles as drones seen through night vision goggles, and called the 2004 Nimitz incident unresolved.

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Mr. Schiff. Can you point to the screen, again, what we are supposed to be
looking at?
Mr. Bray. Absolutely. Right here. It is right --
Mr. Schiff. Okay. If you could stop that frame.
Mr. Bray. No, that is not the one.
Mr. Schiff. That is not the one.
Mr. Bray. Lexi, just push "play." Let's see if -- here, what you will see coming
up right here is -- there it went. Now back up just a -- a spherical object right here
zooms by the window right in this area right there. There we go.
Could you see that part right there again going by? I think we are having a hard
time stopping at the right spot.
Mr. Schiff. Okay.
Mr. Bray. So, as you can see, it is difficult. And I think a part of the issue here is
the laptop we are working with is not as easy for us stopping that video in the right spot.
Mr. Schiff. Well, describe what we have seen in that. What are we observing?
Mr. Bray. What you see here is aircraft that is operating in a U.S. Navy training
range that has observed a spherical object in that area. And, as they fly by it, they take a
video. You see it looks reflective in this video, somewhat reflective. And it quickly
passes by the cockpit of the aircraft.
Mr. Schiff. And is this one of the phenomenon that we can't explain?
Mr. Bray. I do not have an explanation for what this specific object is.
Mr. Schiff. And is this one of the situations where it is -- that is the object that
we are looking at right there? Thank you.
And is this a situation where it was observed by the pilot, and it was also recorded
by the aircraft's instruments?

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