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This is the transcript of the open session of a hearing on unidentified aerial phenomena, held on 17 May 2022 by the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence's Subcommittee on Counterterrorism, Counterintelligence, and Counterproliferation. Under Secretary Ronald Moultrie and Deputy Director of Naval Intelligence Scott Bray testified on the new AOIMSG office, efforts to reduce stigma in reporting, and a UAP database of about 400 reports. Bray showed videos, explained flashing triangles as drones seen through night vision goggles, and called the 2004 Nimitz incident unresolved.
25 Mr. Crawford. Thank you. I yield back. Chairman Carson. The gentleman yields back. Chairman Schiff. Mr. Schiff. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Bray, can you rerun that first image that looked like it was outside the plane window? And if you wouldn't mind going up to the screen and tell us what we are seeing, not that you can necessarily tell us what we are seeing but -- Mr. Bray. Right. Mr. Schiff. -- explain what we should be looking at in that first image. Mr. Bray. Absolutely. And, Lexi, what I will ask is if you can stop it at a certain point. [Video played.] Mr. Bray. So back up. Mr. Schiff. Are we looking outside of a civilian aircraft window? Is that what we are looking at? Mr. Bray. You are looking outside a U.S. Navy F-18, and it shows how difficult the analysis is. Go a little farther forward, absolutely. As you can see, finding a UAP is harder than you may think. What you will find eventually on this, when we find the right frame, is for literally about one frame here is a spherical object that passes right through here, passes right through there, because the aircraft is moving pretty fast in this direction of the flyby of it. And it is a -- Mr. Schiff. Is that it right there? Mr. Bray. That is it, there we go, off in the distance.
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