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Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (hearing transcript, Subcommittee on Counterterrorism, Counterintelligence, and Counterproliferation, 17 May 2022)

House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence · 2022-05-17 · 53 pages · text from the file's own layer

This is the transcript of the open session of a hearing on unidentified aerial phenomena, held on 17 May 2022 by the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence's Subcommittee on Counterterrorism, Counterintelligence, and Counterproliferation. Under Secretary Ronald Moultrie and Deputy Director of Naval Intelligence Scott Bray testified on the new AOIMSG office, efforts to reduce stigma in reporting, and a UAP database of about 400 reports. Bray showed videos, explained flashing triangles as drones seen through night vision goggles, and called the 2004 Nimitz incident unresolved.

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have on the ground, whatever we may have from other sensors that we may have in
different domains, we want to be able to integrate that all and get this integrated picture
as we would, as I said, with any other unidentified objects or things we are tracking as a
part of our normal intelligence responsibilities.
Mr. Crawford. Thank you.
Last question, Mr. Bray, if you would, I am a Navy pilot. I have encountered a
UAP. Walk me through the reporting protocol once I see something that I think needs
reporting.
Mr. Bray. The first thing that aviator would do after landing as a part of their
normal debriefing is they would contact their intelligence officer. Their intelligence
officer would then walk them through, first, filing a -- first, actually, data preservation to
ensure that, whatever sensor data may be on the aircraft, that we preserve that so that it
is available for later analysis.
Second, they would actually fill out a form that includes details like where they
were operating, altitudes they were operating, speeds, what they observed, whatever
sensor data they may have recorded from that.
And then that report is filed. It goes two places. One, it goes through the
operational chain of command so that operational units are aware of what is being
observed and also to the UAP Task Force so that they can take that data, database it, and
quite often have individuals from the task force contact the aviator and ask them
additional questions if there were things that weren't clear in the report.
That then goes into a database where we then compare it with other observations
that we have, again, comparing for locations, comparing for altitudes, speeds, shapes, if
any RF emissions were detected from the platform, all of that so that we can try to reach
some conclusions on that.

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