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This is the transcript of the open session of a hearing on unidentified aerial phenomena, held on 17 May 2022 by the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence's Subcommittee on Counterterrorism, Counterintelligence, and Counterproliferation. Under Secretary Ronald Moultrie and Deputy Director of Naval Intelligence Scott Bray testified on the new AOIMSG office, efforts to reduce stigma in reporting, and a UAP database of about 400 reports. Bray showed videos, explained flashing triangles as drones seen through night vision goggles, and called the 2004 Nimitz incident unresolved.
40 Mr. Gallagher. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, I appreciate it. Chairman Carson. Mr. Krishnamoorthi. Mr. Krishnamoorthi. Thank you, Mr. Chair. And thank you to both of you for appearing today and for your public service. The first question is -- there have been no collisions between any U.S. assets in one of these UAPs, correct? Mr. Bray. We have not had a collision. We have had at least 11 near misses, though. Mr. Krishnamoorthi. And maybe we will talk about those 11 near misses or any place where there is close proximity. I assume -- or tell me if I am wrong -- there has been no attempt -- there is no communications or any kind of communication signals that emanate from those objects that we have detected, correct. Mr. Bray. That is correct. Mr. Krishnamoorthi. And have we attempted to communicate with those objects? Mr. Bray. No. Mr. Krishnamoorthi. So we don't even put an alert saying, you know, U.S. -- you know, "identify yourself, you are, you know, within our flight path," or something like that? We haven't said anything like that? Mr. Bray. We have not put anything out like that. Generally speaking, what -- you know, for example, in the video that we showed earlier, it appears to be something that is, you know, unmanned. It appears to be something that may or may not be in controlled flight. And so we have not attempted any communication with that. Mr. Krishnamoorthi. Okay. So -- and I assume we have never discharged any
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