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Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (hearing transcript, Subcommittee on Counterterrorism, Counterintelligence, and Counterproliferation, 17 May 2022)

House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence · 2022-05-17 · 53 pages · text from the file's own layer

This is the transcript of the open session of a hearing on unidentified aerial phenomena, held on 17 May 2022 by the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence's Subcommittee on Counterterrorism, Counterintelligence, and Counterproliferation. Under Secretary Ronald Moultrie and Deputy Director of Naval Intelligence Scott Bray testified on the new AOIMSG office, efforts to reduce stigma in reporting, and a UAP database of about 400 reports. Bray showed videos, explained flashing triangles as drones seen through night vision goggles, and called the 2004 Nimitz incident unresolved.

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through this standardized methodology for now, bringing in data, analyzing that data, and
reporting that data in the appropriate method and appropriate means so we can either
get it to our service personnel to ensure their safety or get it to you in the Congress and
to the public to ensure you have oversight to what we are doing.
So, chartered by the Secretary of Defense, standardized, and really a methodical
approach is something that we are doing that has not been done before.
Chairman Carson. Can we get some kind of assurances that your analysts will
follow the facts where they lead and assess all hypotheses?
Mr. Moultrie. Absolutely. So we are open to all hypotheses. We are open to
any conclusions that we may encounter.
Chairman Carson. Quickly, before I pass it to the ranking member and Chairman
Schiff, I want to thank you both for taking the time.
And I had a good time meeting with you last week, Director Moultrie, Under
Secretary Moultrie.
It is fair to say that you are a science fiction fan. Is that correct?
Mr. Moultrie. It is fair to say that I am an inquisitive mind who has spent 40
years in the intelligence field and has focused on both science and science fiction. That
is fair.
Chairman Carson. Could you tell us about it?
Mr. Moultrie. Yeah, well, look, my generation grew up looking at space sagas
and the Apollo program. So all of us who grew up in the sixties were just thrilled by
watching our first astronaut land on the Moon. That was a momentous occasion.
People who were of different generations, some of them didn't believe that happened.
I still have relatives and friends who don't believe it happened. Right? It is science
fiction to them, but to us, it was, no, that is the progress that we have made.

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