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Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (hearing transcript, Subcommittee on Counterterrorism, Counterintelligence, and Counterproliferation, 17 May 2022)

House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence · 2022-05-17 · 53 pages · text from the file's own layer

This is the transcript of the open session of a hearing on unidentified aerial phenomena, held on 17 May 2022 by the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence's Subcommittee on Counterterrorism, Counterintelligence, and Counterproliferation. Under Secretary Ronald Moultrie and Deputy Director of Naval Intelligence Scott Bray testified on the new AOIMSG office, efforts to reduce stigma in reporting, and a UAP database of about 400 reports. Bray showed videos, explained flashing triangles as drones seen through night vision goggles, and called the 2004 Nimitz incident unresolved.

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Chairman Carson. Thank you, Mr. Bray.
This is the third version of this task force. And to be frank, one of Congress'
concerns is that the executive branch in administration, both parties, has been sweeping
concerns about UAPs under the rug by focusing on events that can be explained and
avoiding events that cannot be explained.
What can you -- what can you say to give the American people confidence that
you aren't just focusing our attention on low-hanging fruit with easy explanations?
Mr. Moultrie. Congressman, I will start.
And then, Mr. Bray, please feel free to weigh in.
So the way we are approaching this is with a more thorough standardized
methodology than what we have in the past.
First and foremost, the Secretary of Defense is chartering this effort. This is not
someone lower in the Department of Defense. And he has assigned that task to the
Office of the Secretary of Defense, the Under Secretary for Intelligence and
Security -- that is me -- because I am responsible for looking at intelligence matters. I
am responsible for security matters. This is potentially both.
So, when you start concerning ourselves with the safety of our personnel, the
safety of our installations and bases, there is no other higher priority than what we have
than actually getting after this. And, as you have stated, we have been assigned that
task to actually stand up the office, the AOIMSG, which I believe the name, sir, will likely
change. But we have moved forward.
In terms of moving to establish that office, we have, as of this week, picked the
Director for that effort, very established and accomplished individual. We have
identified spaces. We have worked with personnel across the Department of Defense
with the services. And we have worked with the IC, which is on board in helping us work

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