Q: Did you have interaction with Spilhaus in your civil service career?
A: No. Oh, I met with him. Spilly was a consultant, and even in his advancing age he was still an enormous source of ideas. If you brought him into a meeting as a consultant, surely somewhere along the line he would offer an idea that was useful. So he found a lot of contact throughout many organizations, particularly in those related to geophysics...meteorology, geology. I know he worked with the U.S. Geological Survey, a very, very fine organization, and with NOAA. Those are two that I know he continued relationships with. But I had very little contact with him.
Spilly was a very intimidating character. I lived with him for awhile.
Q: Were you involved in his exploits in North Africa, out there in the desert with him?
A: No. Nor in China.
Q: He had quite some stories about some of his past exploits.
A: No matter where he went, he gathered stories.
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