it with your hands. There was also debris collection on sticky paper. Most of the balloon projects were not concerned with weather--that's why there weren't radiosondes on all the balloons. The "cosmic ray train" was probably just a cosmic ray experiment on one of our balloons. The balloons were made of sections and had tape reinforcements but I recall any specifics on the tape material. Mylar was not called that originally--it may have originated as polyethylene. All the polyethylene we use was of a translucent material. Neoprene was used during the war, generally for meteorological and artillery firing balloons. The artillery radar tracked the balloons with corner reflectors--this gave the winds aloft to assist the gunners. The radar reflectors were sheets of reflective material and they changed over time but I don't recall the details of the changes. On reviewing Charlie Moore's letter, the acoustic detection relates with the atomic debris collection. The reflectors were for tracking and was made up of a metalized paper or fabric. Charlie explains the flowers--I'd heard about the flowers before, don't remember where--we used whatever we had in the experimental realm. The targets were throw-aways--we didn't put a tag on them, maybe a radiosonde, but not a target. Such a train would make gouges (shallow) as it was dragging the ground. We used meteorology as a cover story--it was a natural. It had a purpose beyond the project--we could use the constant level analysis of the constant pressure (isobaric) vs constant altitude to study atmospherics mathematically--therefore using it was natural. Ramey's press conference--the Air Force position makes sense for the mistake that the PIO made in his statements. (All the NYU personnel had left Alamogordo when the "material" was brought in--someone stated that it may have been Col Duffy's and therefore sent it to him at Wright Patterson--not because it was extraterrestrial) It is a logical reason to send it (the debris from the desert) there--not because it was special--Col Duffy was a fine officer and I'm sure he'd recognize it. I was not aware of any association between our balloon projects and the alleged "Roswell incident" until this interview. I am not part of any conspiracy to withhold information from either the US government or American public. There is no classified information that I am withholding related to this inquiry and I have never been threatened by US Government persons concerning not talking about this situation.
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Subscribed and sworn to before me, a person authorized to administer oaths this 3rd day of June 1994 VA
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JEFFREY D BUTLER, COL, USAF
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JAMES MCANDREW, 1LT, USAF
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