SC: Well, some of these authors, Mary, you got to remember, they will skip from the Roswell incident to something that happened someplace else in the United States and they get a little confusing. You just read through it. I remember something about some hieroglyphics, not on that one. I didn't see anything. I do not remember any writing at all on the thing. But if Marcel saw something, maybe he did.
RW: Did you know Haut, Lt. Haut? The public affairs guy at the time?
SC: Just vaguely. What was he, base information, or something of that sort?
RW: Yes.
SC: Not close at all. As a matter of fact I couldn't even describe him. I got a picture with a tall fellow and I didn't know much about him, at all.
RW: Is there anything else that you can recall or like to add?
SC: I have been thinking about it ever since you called, and said you were coming out.
MC: It is a shame that Don Yeager was in the office with Jess.
SC: Yeah. Is he dead now?
MC: I don't know.
SC: But he won't know a thing, Mary. He wouldn't know a thing.
MC: He wouldn't have known anything with Jesse?
SC: No. No. Jesse didn't trust Don very much. I wouldn't want (unintelligible). He was trying to keep up, but couldn't. He just wasn't a reliable sort of individual.
MC: So Jess probably wouldn't have...
SC: No. No. I don't even think he even talked to Don about it. There was another Captain in the Intelligence office at the time who I always thought was a very sharp individual, his name I don't remember his first name...Carl was his first name, Macamer. He ended up as a full Colonel.
MC: Now we gave Randall their names. We gave them everything we could think of.
SC: Yeah. Carl might be dead now. I always thought he was a pretty smart individual.
MC: Carl was the last we knew.