SC: No.
MC: I remember we were at the Marcel's house and I can remember Jesse had something had something on the pad...and then went out to...and took it out onto the back porch. And, I remember that (unintelligible)
RW: Was it some sort of material, metal material or...
MC: And it's in one of these books and then they...and as little Jesse said, they cemented over that...
RW: Oh yeah...O.K. I remember that.
MC: I can still visualize the stove of where they were and we were out there.
SC: No, he could have had some there at the house.
MC: I honestly do remember that.
RW: O.K. Was it like tinfoil type stuff or do you recall...
MC: I don't remember.
SC: I remember. He could have had some there at the house and it was, and it looked like a foil of some sort, and he could have tried to burn that and it didn't burn very well, I don't know. I don't remember that. I can't why imagine he'd be beating on it with a hammer for, but it doesn't make sense.
RW: One of the other things that I'll just jump to real quick was that you had tested the material with a Geiger counter. Did you ever have a Geiger counter?
SC: No.
RW: Now that's not standard OSI/CIC issue that I was aware of.
SC: Honest to God, no!
RW: I've never seen a Geiger counter myself, but I didn't know if you knew what one was.
SC: I had never seen one...what CIC would...No, absolutely.
RW: That comes a little further...did you have a Jeep Carryall, was that...?
SC: No.