personal involvement even though other reliable sources gave him a central role. That kind of sums up everything in...
SC: No. No. From the very start, when these clowns started hounding me, Randle and Schmitt, I told they accused me of covering up and having signed a security...
RW: Berlitz and Moore?
MC: Now, you see, he was here at the house. I've heard numerous deals on the radio when I'm listening at night and all this, all of this, has been...
SC: I told these guys when they first talked to me, I said: "I have taken no security oath. I'm under no obligation to not tell you anything, because, as far as I was concerned, it wasn't anything other than a weather balloon." And, I said: "I want you to quit inferring that I am staying silent under an oath of security." And, finally, I think about two years, later Randle told me: "Hey, we believe you." It was getting ridiculous. I was getting so sick and tired of this garbage.
RW: Yeah. I sensed a little of reluctance when I first called up and..."like, Oh no, here we go again" type of thing.
SC: I did, really.
MC: He gets so many phone calls. I usually answer the phone and say: "Who's calling please?" And then, I don't know whether...come and write a book...
SC: You've hear of Pflock?
RW: I know who he is, yeah.
SC: He's our chief debunker. I lean toward him.
MC: Rich, have you got, read, Randle and Schmitt's latest book?
RW: I've not. I've tried to find it and I haven't been able to find it.
MC: It just came out in April.
SC: They haven't sent me a copy yet. I think they are mad at me.
MC: Didn't they tell us that they found some new information and it wasn't at the spot that...
SC: Right. Right.
RW: Yeah. As I understand it, the new information (and this may not be quite right, since I haven't read it, this is hearsay) is that there was this crash...what they call the crash site,