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Terauchi interview transcript, Dick Gordon, 2 Jan 1987

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This FAA record of interview documents a January 2, 1987 session in Anchorage, Alaska, in which Inspector Richard O. Gordon of FSDO-63 questioned JAL Captain Kenju Terauchi about his crew's November 17, 1986 sighting. Terauchi describes two small craft with exhaust-like lights that flew near his aircraft and a much larger mothership, and says the target appeared green on his onboard radar. He also reports VHF interference and says the objects matched his 360-degree turn and his descent.

  • p. 2 RECORD OF INTERVIEW WITH JAL CAPTAIN Richard Gordon, Manager, FSD0-63 Kenju Terauchi, Captain, JAL Frank…
  • p. 3 …Terauchi 2 am R. Gordon When last month Interruption R. Gordon Okay, excuse me one moment…
  • p. 4 …Gordon K. Terauchi R. Gordon F . Fujii R. Gordon K. Terauchi F . Fujii R. Gordon ? R…
  • p. 5 R. Gordon Okay, yes K. Terauchi But this one is nozzle direction (Japanese)(garbled) we couldn…
  • p. 6 …R. Gordon Well they're alot, much larger. K. Terauchi Yes, much larger • R. Gordon So…
  • p. 7 …eight miles ... R. Gordon Okay K. Terauchi And, 60 degrees left .•. R. Gordon Okay K. Terauchi…
  • p. 8 R. Gordon Digital color? K. Terauchi Yes colored, digital R. Gordon Okay, fine, yeah, that's…
  • p. 9 …when ah • • • R. Gordon K. Terauchi R. Gordon K. Terauchi R. Gordon See, it just says…
  • p. 10 …Gordon Oh yeah uh hu, okay sure F. Fujii It was like two R. Gordon Okay…
  • p. 11 …photo. R. Gordon Okay, okay F. Fujii So the (unintelligible) was dark. R. Gordon Okay, that…
  • p. 12 …this • R. Gordon Ah uh, okay F. Fujii About this big so . . . R. Gordon Okay F…
  • p. 13 …Oh yes • R. Gordon Like this . K. Terauchi Yeah, yeah, yeah R. Gordon Okay K. Terauchi…
  • p. 14 …change. R. Gordon They didn't change, huh? K. Terauchi Steady, steady. R. Gordon Okay, the…
  • p. 15 …moon light. R. Gordon Ah uh, I understand. K. Terauchi (Japanese) R. Gordon So the moon…
  • p. 16 …air. R. Gordon You got no turbulence? K. Terauchi No turbulence. R. Gordon So it's…
  • p. 17 …Fujii Gordon Fujii Gordon Fujii Gordon About 0.1 ••• Just right on the horizon, the sun…
  • p. 18 …R. Gordon Yeah K. Terauchi This one, this one, are the same. R. Gordon Same K…
  • p. 19 …R. Gordon Okay 75 miles north of Talkeetna • K. Terauchi Yeah, yeah R. Gordon • it went…
  • p. 20 …Terauchi Yeah s. Mimoto R. Gordon s. Mimoto R. Gordon s. Mimoto K. Terauchi I thought…
R. Gordon I get a copy of that Frank? Could we take a picture of that, I
would certainly appreciate it. Yes. Alright. I think that's
all, can you think of anything we need.
K. Terauchi (unintelligible)
R. Gordon Yes, please if I could have one. Oh one thing, this track
K. Terauchi Oh yeah. This one is ah (unintelligible) so after this one is ah
(unintelligible) this point ah •••
R. Gordon Okay, right about the
K. Terauchi This point, so we contact Anchorage Center here, so ah two or
three minutes, proceed right direct to Talkeetna, so we flew this
distance • . •
R. Gordon Okay from that point direct to Talkeetna and ah, and then some so
you went about there you saw this thing.
K. Terauchi Yes, yes, I saw from here . . . so ah .
R. Gordon Okay, and then maybe five minutes later along here saying
Anchorage do you have anything out there?
K. Terauchi Oh yeah, yeah, yeah
R. Gordon Okay I have it. To just about Talkeetna?
K. Terauchi No no, disappear 75 miles north of Talkeetna
R. Gordon Okay 75 miles north of Talkeetna •
K. Terauchi Yeah, yeah
R. Gordon • it went away.
S. Mimoto The small one, not the mothership, were there many light?
K. Terauchi Oh yes, there were numerous lights. The exhausts on the engine
were lined up all the way, but when they were blasting recoil
jets were so strong I could not see it because it was so bright.
Once the recoil blast stopped, the speed was absolutely steady,
not faster or slower, and I could see them very clearly.
S . Mimoto Just one group?
K. Terauchi See there were two, appeared in front of us. Right here and
right here • both exactly the same.
S. Mimoto Only two?
K. Terauchi All I saw was two .
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