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Terauchi interview transcript, Dick Gordon, 2 Jan 1987

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This FAA record of interview documents a January 2, 1987 session in Anchorage, Alaska, in which Inspector Richard O. Gordon of FSDO-63 questioned JAL Captain Kenju Terauchi about his crew's November 17, 1986 sighting. Terauchi describes two small craft with exhaust-like lights that flew near his aircraft and a much larger mothership, and says the target appeared green on his onboard radar. He also reports VHF interference and says the objects matched his 360-degree turn and his descent.

  • p. 2 RECORD OF INTERVIEW WITH JAL CAPTAIN Richard Gordon, Manager, FSD0-63 Kenju Terauchi, Captain, JAL Frank…
  • p. 3 …Terauchi 2 am R. Gordon When last month Interruption R. Gordon Okay, excuse me one moment…
  • p. 4 …Gordon K. Terauchi R. Gordon F . Fujii R. Gordon K. Terauchi F . Fujii R. Gordon ? R…
  • p. 5 R. Gordon Okay, yes K. Terauchi But this one is nozzle direction (Japanese)(garbled) we couldn…
  • p. 6 …R. Gordon Well they're alot, much larger. K. Terauchi Yes, much larger • R. Gordon So…
  • p. 7 …eight miles ... R. Gordon Okay K. Terauchi And, 60 degrees left .•. R. Gordon Okay K. Terauchi…
  • p. 8 R. Gordon Digital color? K. Terauchi Yes colored, digital R. Gordon Okay, fine, yeah, that's…
  • p. 9 …when ah • • • R. Gordon K. Terauchi R. Gordon K. Terauchi R. Gordon See, it just says…
  • p. 10 …Gordon Oh yeah uh hu, okay sure F. Fujii It was like two R. Gordon Okay…
  • p. 11 …photo. R. Gordon Okay, okay F. Fujii So the (unintelligible) was dark. R. Gordon Okay, that…
  • p. 12 …this • R. Gordon Ah uh, okay F. Fujii About this big so . . . R. Gordon Okay F…
  • p. 13 …Oh yes • R. Gordon Like this . K. Terauchi Yeah, yeah, yeah R. Gordon Okay K. Terauchi…
  • p. 14 …change. R. Gordon They didn't change, huh? K. Terauchi Steady, steady. R. Gordon Okay, the…
  • p. 15 …moon light. R. Gordon Ah uh, I understand. K. Terauchi (Japanese) R. Gordon So the moon…
  • p. 16 …air. R. Gordon You got no turbulence? K. Terauchi No turbulence. R. Gordon So it's…
  • p. 17 …Fujii Gordon Fujii Gordon Fujii Gordon About 0.1 ••• Just right on the horizon, the sun…
  • p. 18 …R. Gordon Yeah K. Terauchi This one, this one, are the same. R. Gordon Same K…
  • p. 19 …R. Gordon Okay 75 miles north of Talkeetna • K. Terauchi Yeah, yeah R. Gordon • it went…
  • p. 20 …Terauchi Yeah s. Mimoto R. Gordon s. Mimoto R. Gordon s. Mimoto K. Terauchi I thought…
R. Gordon Okay, fine. Well I can't think of anything else I need to ask
you, ah, I really appreciate you taking time to talk to us,
because it's very, very interesting and we need to see if we can
figure out what is there, you know.
K. Terauchi So ah, one things, they ah, completely they're controled of
inertial and gravity. Yeah, so their technology was unthinkable.
Unimaginable high technology.
F. Fujii High tech.
R. Gordon Oh yeah, it just sounds like it. All I can say is let's hope
they're on our side ••• (laughter)
Shinbashi This kind of information (unintelligible) before?
R. Gordon No I can't, I haven't so that's why we're trying to get as much
information as we have; we're going to send it back to
Washington DC, and have them try to marry it up with anything
like this before and then maybe we can say, oh, it happened here,
or it happened here •••
K. Terauchi Oh yeah
R. Gordon • other sightings, we have a lot of stuff where pilots have
had other sightings.
K. Terauchi Oh yes
R. Gordon So we don't know if these lights and all these pictures you drew;
maybe they'll be the same and it happened in Arizona or New York
or wherever, so we got a place in Washington DC, we'll put them
all together and say is any two of them alike. But, but as we go
through this thing I would be glad to keep you folks informed
and, -Of what we find out, or if we find out anything, but I'll be
glad to tell you and see how we're doing. Could I get those
drawings, if you don't mind ah? I think that's all we need.
K. Terauchi (unintelligible)
R. Gordon Yes, yes, you could probably explain that with the thing you have
drawn here. Now these are the same drawings?
K. Terauchi Oh no, no, no
R. Gordon Yeah
K. Terauchi This one, this one, are the same.
R. Gordon Same
K. Terauchi So I like (unintelligible)
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