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Terauchi interview transcript, Dick Gordon, 2 Jan 1987

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This FAA record of interview documents a January 2, 1987 session in Anchorage, Alaska, in which Inspector Richard O. Gordon of FSDO-63 questioned JAL Captain Kenju Terauchi about his crew's November 17, 1986 sighting. Terauchi describes two small craft with exhaust-like lights that flew near his aircraft and a much larger mothership, and says the target appeared green on his onboard radar. He also reports VHF interference and says the objects matched his 360-degree turn and his descent.

  • p. 2 RECORD OF INTERVIEW WITH JAL CAPTAIN Richard Gordon, Manager, FSD0-63 Kenju Terauchi, Captain, JAL Frank…
  • p. 3 …Terauchi 2 am R. Gordon When last month Interruption R. Gordon Okay, excuse me one moment…
  • p. 4 …Gordon K. Terauchi R. Gordon F . Fujii R. Gordon K. Terauchi F . Fujii R. Gordon ? R…
  • p. 5 R. Gordon Okay, yes K. Terauchi But this one is nozzle direction (Japanese)(garbled) we couldn…
  • p. 6 …R. Gordon Well they're alot, much larger. K. Terauchi Yes, much larger • R. Gordon So…
  • p. 7 …eight miles ... R. Gordon Okay K. Terauchi And, 60 degrees left .•. R. Gordon Okay K. Terauchi…
  • p. 8 R. Gordon Digital color? K. Terauchi Yes colored, digital R. Gordon Okay, fine, yeah, that's…
  • p. 9 …when ah • • • R. Gordon K. Terauchi R. Gordon K. Terauchi R. Gordon See, it just says…
  • p. 10 …Gordon Oh yeah uh hu, okay sure F. Fujii It was like two R. Gordon Okay…
  • p. 11 …photo. R. Gordon Okay, okay F. Fujii So the (unintelligible) was dark. R. Gordon Okay, that…
  • p. 12 …this • R. Gordon Ah uh, okay F. Fujii About this big so . . . R. Gordon Okay F…
  • p. 13 …Oh yes • R. Gordon Like this . K. Terauchi Yeah, yeah, yeah R. Gordon Okay K. Terauchi…
  • p. 14 …change. R. Gordon They didn't change, huh? K. Terauchi Steady, steady. R. Gordon Okay, the…
  • p. 15 …moon light. R. Gordon Ah uh, I understand. K. Terauchi (Japanese) R. Gordon So the moon…
  • p. 16 …air. R. Gordon You got no turbulence? K. Terauchi No turbulence. R. Gordon So it's…
  • p. 17 …Fujii Gordon Fujii Gordon Fujii Gordon About 0.1 ••• Just right on the horizon, the sun…
  • p. 18 …R. Gordon Yeah K. Terauchi This one, this one, are the same. R. Gordon Same K…
  • p. 19 …R. Gordon Okay 75 miles north of Talkeetna • K. Terauchi Yeah, yeah R. Gordon • it went…
  • p. 20 …Terauchi Yeah s. Mimoto R. Gordon s. Mimoto R. Gordon s. Mimoto K. Terauchi I thought…
R. Gordon Yeah, let's see what would you estimate the size of the small
ships to be?
K. Terauchi Ah ••• (unintelligible), up here equal to (unintelligible) we
saw, ah, second (unintelligible), square, but I saw this on here,
ah here, for so I guess this one is maybe separate, separate,
then move to here. So ah, ah, (Japanese).
R. Gordon Right, yeah, ah uh.
S. Mimoto if this one was two stacked together, how large was one?
K. Terauchi This here ah fuselage, fuselage of DC-8, DC-8 fuselage.
R. Gordon DC-8, okay • • • yeah ah uh, in other words this part right here
would be like fuselage of a DC-8.
K. Terauchi Oh yes •
R. Gordon Like this .
K. Terauchi Yeah, yeah, yeah
R. Gordon Okay
K. Terauchi Maybe, maybe about like this
R. Gordon Uh ah, yeah I understand, okay, I got it. That's good.
F. Fujii Any other lighted or unlight objects, any other lights?
K. Terauchi Yeah, we saw ah, some unusual light from ah, top of mothership.
R. Gordon Uh ah
K. Terauchi Ah, it was not regular, but - not regularly, but white -
silverish lights, not in equal span of time, but occasionally
flashed, irregularly lighted at all times.
S. Mimoto Occasional flash
K. Terauchi Flash, flash
R. Gordon And since I've got this on tape, if you will help me later, you
know when we write this down, because I can't remember all this
stuff. Thank you.
K. Terauchi (Japanese) First time we cannot see ah, this (unintelligible) so
ah, ah, we saw this light, this light, and •
R. Gordon Ah uh, okay, thank you very much.
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