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Terauchi interview transcript, Dick Gordon, 2 Jan 1987

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This FAA record of interview documents a January 2, 1987 session in Anchorage, Alaska, in which Inspector Richard O. Gordon of FSDO-63 questioned JAL Captain Kenju Terauchi about his crew's November 17, 1986 sighting. Terauchi describes two small craft with exhaust-like lights that flew near his aircraft and a much larger mothership, and says the target appeared green on his onboard radar. He also reports VHF interference and says the objects matched his 360-degree turn and his descent.

  • p. 2 RECORD OF INTERVIEW WITH JAL CAPTAIN Richard Gordon, Manager, FSD0-63 Kenju Terauchi, Captain, JAL Frank…
  • p. 3 …Terauchi 2 am R. Gordon When last month Interruption R. Gordon Okay, excuse me one moment…
  • p. 4 …Gordon K. Terauchi R. Gordon F . Fujii R. Gordon K. Terauchi F . Fujii R. Gordon ? R…
  • p. 5 R. Gordon Okay, yes K. Terauchi But this one is nozzle direction (Japanese)(garbled) we couldn…
  • p. 6 …R. Gordon Well they're alot, much larger. K. Terauchi Yes, much larger • R. Gordon So…
  • p. 7 …eight miles ... R. Gordon Okay K. Terauchi And, 60 degrees left .•. R. Gordon Okay K. Terauchi…
  • p. 8 R. Gordon Digital color? K. Terauchi Yes colored, digital R. Gordon Okay, fine, yeah, that's…
  • p. 9 …when ah • • • R. Gordon K. Terauchi R. Gordon K. Terauchi R. Gordon See, it just says…
  • p. 10 …Gordon Oh yeah uh hu, okay sure F. Fujii It was like two R. Gordon Okay…
  • p. 11 …photo. R. Gordon Okay, okay F. Fujii So the (unintelligible) was dark. R. Gordon Okay, that…
  • p. 12 …this • R. Gordon Ah uh, okay F. Fujii About this big so . . . R. Gordon Okay F…
  • p. 13 …Oh yes • R. Gordon Like this . K. Terauchi Yeah, yeah, yeah R. Gordon Okay K. Terauchi…
  • p. 14 …change. R. Gordon They didn't change, huh? K. Terauchi Steady, steady. R. Gordon Okay, the…
  • p. 15 …moon light. R. Gordon Ah uh, I understand. K. Terauchi (Japanese) R. Gordon So the moon…
  • p. 16 …air. R. Gordon You got no turbulence? K. Terauchi No turbulence. R. Gordon So it's…
  • p. 17 …Fujii Gordon Fujii Gordon Fujii Gordon About 0.1 ••• Just right on the horizon, the sun…
  • p. 18 …R. Gordon Yeah K. Terauchi This one, this one, are the same. R. Gordon Same K…
  • p. 19 …R. Gordon Okay 75 miles north of Talkeetna • K. Terauchi Yeah, yeah R. Gordon • it went…
  • p. 20 …Terauchi Yeah s. Mimoto R. Gordon s. Mimoto R. Gordon s. Mimoto K. Terauchi I thought…
F . Fujii
K. Terauchi
F. Fujii
R. Gordon
K. Terauchi
R. Gor don
Size, estimate, ah, size
(More Japanese) Two times, or ah, I guess ah . . .
(unintelligible) seven four seven
Okay
So ah, size is ah, carrier
Ah uh, in other words this being the jumbo jet was about as big
ss just the light •.• ?
K. Terauchi See this is the jumbo jet. 1.5, two times this light.
R. Gordon Okay, okay, I have •.• so the side light on this thing was
sbout, the jumbo is about two to two-and-a-half time the size of
this light, so when you stack 'em up, you •.•
K. Terauchi Yeah, yeah, yeah • • •
R. Gordon were saying about two times as big as an aircraft carrier.
K. Terauchi Yeah, yeah, yeah.
R. Gordon Okay
K. Terauchi It felt like this big - (he made a circle by using his fingers);
seven to eight miles away and it was this big. Normally, an air
carrier is seven - eight miles away, it looks like this.
F. Fujii Seven or eight miles away, usually the aircrafts are like
this •
R. Gordon Ah uh, okay
F. Fujii About this big so . . .
R. Gordon Okay
F. Fujii with his estimate.
R. Gordon So he's kinda comparing it to another jumbo jet?
F. Fujii Yeah, yeah . . .
R. Gordon Okay
s . Mimoto (More Japanese) Tremendous
R. Gordon Oh yeah (laughter) , boy, okay
F . Fujii Go for this size here, this one.
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