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Terauchi interview transcript, Dick Gordon, 2 Jan 1987

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This FAA record of interview documents a January 2, 1987 session in Anchorage, Alaska, in which Inspector Richard O. Gordon of FSDO-63 questioned JAL Captain Kenju Terauchi about his crew's November 17, 1986 sighting. Terauchi describes two small craft with exhaust-like lights that flew near his aircraft and a much larger mothership, and says the target appeared green on his onboard radar. He also reports VHF interference and says the objects matched his 360-degree turn and his descent.

  • p. 2 RECORD OF INTERVIEW WITH JAL CAPTAIN Richard Gordon, Manager, FSD0-63 Kenju Terauchi, Captain, JAL Frank…
  • p. 3 …Terauchi 2 am R. Gordon When last month Interruption R. Gordon Okay, excuse me one moment…
  • p. 4 …Gordon K. Terauchi R. Gordon F . Fujii R. Gordon K. Terauchi F . Fujii R. Gordon ? R…
  • p. 5 R. Gordon Okay, yes K. Terauchi But this one is nozzle direction (Japanese)(garbled) we couldn…
  • p. 6 …R. Gordon Well they're alot, much larger. K. Terauchi Yes, much larger • R. Gordon So…
  • p. 7 …eight miles ... R. Gordon Okay K. Terauchi And, 60 degrees left .•. R. Gordon Okay K. Terauchi…
  • p. 8 R. Gordon Digital color? K. Terauchi Yes colored, digital R. Gordon Okay, fine, yeah, that's…
  • p. 9 …when ah • • • R. Gordon K. Terauchi R. Gordon K. Terauchi R. Gordon See, it just says…
  • p. 10 …Gordon Oh yeah uh hu, okay sure F. Fujii It was like two R. Gordon Okay…
  • p. 11 …photo. R. Gordon Okay, okay F. Fujii So the (unintelligible) was dark. R. Gordon Okay, that…
  • p. 12 …this • R. Gordon Ah uh, okay F. Fujii About this big so . . . R. Gordon Okay F…
  • p. 13 …Oh yes • R. Gordon Like this . K. Terauchi Yeah, yeah, yeah R. Gordon Okay K. Terauchi…
  • p. 14 …change. R. Gordon They didn't change, huh? K. Terauchi Steady, steady. R. Gordon Okay, the…
  • p. 15 …moon light. R. Gordon Ah uh, I understand. K. Terauchi (Japanese) R. Gordon So the moon…
  • p. 16 …air. R. Gordon You got no turbulence? K. Terauchi No turbulence. R. Gordon So it's…
  • p. 17 …Fujii Gordon Fujii Gordon Fujii Gordon About 0.1 ••• Just right on the horizon, the sun…
  • p. 18 …R. Gordon Yeah K. Terauchi This one, this one, are the same. R. Gordon Same K…
  • p. 19 …R. Gordon Okay 75 miles north of Talkeetna • K. Terauchi Yeah, yeah R. Gordon • it went…
  • p. 20 …Terauchi Yeah s. Mimoto R. Gordon s. Mimoto R. Gordon s. Mimoto K. Terauchi I thought…
K. Terauchi Yeah, yeah, yeah.
R. Gordon Okay
S. Mimoto Was it's sound like speaking in German, or just jamming noise?
K. Terauchi It was just noise, sounded zaa, zaa
R. Gordon Oh just noise ••. Okay, okay I misunderstood you, I'm glad you
brought that out.
K. Terauchi Normally when you can hear clearly it is digital 5. 5, 4, 3, 2 ,
1 - but it was about 2.
F. Fujii You know five by five radio communication
R. Gordon Oh yeah uh hu, okay sure
F. Fujii It was like two
R. Gordon Okay okay, like two
K. Terauchi Sometimes missing, sometimes missing.
R. Gordon Like, almost like, ah, ba ckground noise?
K. Terauchi Yes, yes.
R. Gordon Okay, and then when it, when the little small lights departed the
noise went away, then back to real clear communications?
K. Te r auchi Yes, that's right.
R. Gordon Okay, fine, ah, lets see, I'm going to come back to thirteen,
because ah • • •
F. Fujii Oka y
R. Gordon What was there any question?
F. Fujii Did you see any reflection on the glass (window)?
R. Gordon Inside the cockpit, was it dark, all the light off inside the
cockpit?
K. Te r auchi Oh ah, dark yeah, yeah, yeah.
K. Terauchi Therefore, there was not reflection of inside. No reflection
from inside. So when I took the camera bag, finding t he object,
a ll the light s were turned off, made room dark - cargo room and
passenge r r oom, there was nothing to reflect.
F. Fuj ii We ha ve ah , on a cargo plane we ha ve a ba ck lounge .
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