“Works”60+ pages
- p. 5 …Also,
Robert "Gus" Bell contributed with his attractive art work; Richard Wolf provided
invaluable computer expertise…
- p. 14 …Mensuration Working Paper, with Drawing and Photo
xiv
- p. 19 …The ruse worked. However, too much activity
was going on for the project to remain completely…
- p. 28 …The balloon which held
it up, if that is how it worked, must have been about…
- p. 31 …These works included: The Roswell Incident
(1980) by William Moore and Charles Berlitz; "Crashed Saucers: Evidence…
- p. 34 …specialists, including experienced persons who have
continually worked in Army and Air Force records systems since…
- p. 42 …or
classified about their work; they were told only that their work dealt with
meteorological equipment…
- p. 43 …of umbrella cover story to protect our work with MOGUL." Although the Air
Force did not…
- p. 44 …who is married to a staffer who works for Congressman
Schiff. Some of these persons provided…
- p. 48 …Synopsis of Balloon Research Findings by 1st Lt James McAndrew
33. "Mensuration Working Paper," With Drawing…
- p. 51 …to the case, and
that not enough work had been done to report
any results to…
- p. 55 …The work will be performed under GAO code 701034 by staff
from our National Security Analysis…
- p. 56 …Initial work will be performed at the Department of Defense, the
Services, specialized defense agencies, and…
- p. 59 …Secur~ty and Inter.nationa1 Affairs Division (National Security
Analysis) is doinq the work. The review…
- p. 75 …Mary Kathryn Groode, and his friend, John
Kromschroeder.
• A mortician who worked for the funCr.ll…
- p. 76 …Conversations with a dozen people who had worked in the Project Blue Book office
or with…
- p. 106 …This has caused a large back log o£ important work to pile up.
The following is…
- p. 145 …civilian,
Joe Shipman, who works with Col. Hackett is re~orted to have t~ld
the…
- p. 148 …Harness advised he thought we were getting the Merger Bill
worked out pretty fine.
9:35…
- p. 164 …I had two enJisted
agents "working for me" quote end quote.
RW: Who were the enlisted…
- p. 169 …He worked for an insane asylum up in the Washington DC area. I think his
wife…
- p. 170 …He did quite a bit of work for the Air Force, as I found through research…
- p. 183 …we went to all the different records. Working for me I have a group of reservists…
- p. 191 …I need two plug ins to make this
thing work.
SC: You need two?
RW: One…
- p. 196 …the &ranting or clearanc•• to do the work.
Both mthods haw bean succesatul.J¥ u.sod…
- p. 201 …I worked on naval activity such as the thermal affects on
SONAR. Concerning actual baUoon construction…
- p. 205 …Our subsequent work with the balloons and microphones was highly classified and
we didn't know…
- p. 206 …We didn't pattern our work after the Japanese balloons.
We were very secretive of our…
- p. 213 …Charles Ziegler was working on the history of nuclear weapons detection
capability. He had some letters…
- p. 214 …Concerning the name Maj Pritchard, he may have worked for me but I don't recall…
- p. 217 …Project Mogul and some of the other work
that you and Dr. Spilhaus and others have…
- p. 221 …He and I worked together. He was in Maine, and was not really
technically involved. I…
- p. 227 …With some difficulty we got Otto
Winzen who was the entrepreneur cmd promoter, working with Get…
- p. 228 …So you're doing that work from China?
And we
over and
the entire
our
A…
- p. 230 …Schneider and others from NYU,
also Irewin, Minton, Olson, NYU men worked on balloons, north
hangar."
- p. 233 …Before you left active duty, while you were still
working with Duffy and Spilhaus, did they…
- p. 234 …While I was at Georgia Tech I began working with
a microwave, an anonymous propagation research…
- p. 236 …The reason I got into balloons is that while I was working
on this manual there…
- p. 237 …At
that point you were working at New York University under the
direction .•.
A: Spilhaus was…
- p. 240 …He worked for a Tracer lab and is just bringing out a
book on the early…
- p. 242 …Just for the record, ·Major Marcel later worked at
AFOAT-1. Do you recognize him at…
- p. 251 …It often didn't work. That was the reason why for
Operation Sandstone in April and…
- p. 253 …We just worked out of motels in Roswell.
Q: I thought I saw you had a…
- p. 258 …When we sent people to
Roswell, Hackman worked out of a motel to receive.
So the…
- p. 259 …I do know that I worked carefully with a guy named Larry
Dyvad, a pilot, who…
- p. 260 …You were just
saying hey, what's going to work best to get the data, so…
- p. 269 …Tibbetts, the radar lieutenant working for Fletcher, said
that when they got these in '44 there…
- p. 274 …In the course of the research projects you worked on, in that time frame-the postwar…
- p. 275 …You were on-site in New Mexico when Charlie Moore was doing most of his work…
- p. 276 …Did he work for you at Watson Laboratories?
A: No. He didn't work for me…
- p. 279 …Do you recall any of the contractors he may have worked with?
A: No, I don…
- p. 280 …That's where John had his office, and I was there for a time doing work…
- p. 282 …We worked in the old Sun newspaper building in downtown Baltimore.
Q: They had intelligence personnel…
- p. 283 …I know he worked with
the U.S. Geological Survey, a very, very fine organization, and…
- p. 318 …rest on the ranch on which he worked near the town
of Corona, NM. This was…
- p. 322 …In addition, Crary maintlained
a detailed journal of his work throughout his professional career to incluc…
- p. 323 …25 Balloons most suitable for this type of
work were made of polyethylene, a very thin…
- p. 325 …9 appeared to have
been launched on July 3.34 On July 8, their work completed…
- p. 330 …It was apparent from Crary's diary that he had worked very closely with Major
Pritchard…
- p. 379 …MonOay he came to town to sell worked, must have bt!en about 12 some sort…
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model I think that flight #4 was the flight that was launched out of Alamogordo on June 4, 1947.
This is based on Dr. Crary's actual diary of the launch and other events. This is also one of those
events where we went to multiple radar targets because we were not having good success with
single targets. This flight was with multiple balloons and targets and may have had a sonobouy
(black box?). The Watson Lab gear was the microphone equipment specifically for MOGUL.
The idea was proposed in a 1945 letter from Dr Ewing (Woods Hole and Columbia) to Gen
Spaatz that we might be able to detect nuclear blasts via pressure waves and low frequency
microphones. This was developed from a study of the 1883 Krakatoa explosion where the
pressure waves circled the earth seven times. Dr Cracy was sent to Ascension island (the
antipodal) to attempt to detect the Crossroads shot for Operation Crossroads on Kilohuea or
Bikini. He didn't get anything. In December, 1946, Dr Crazy was sent to Alamogordo to run the
field stations for MOGUL. There were several ground microphone sites for detecting blasts
(bombs) detonated off the New Jersey coast. He also initiated activities offBennuda and Panama.
Dr Crazy and Dr Peoples were the advance people and scientific monitors for our project Dr
Peoples told us to use the cover story of meteorology and to enforce the need-to-know-in fact I
had been reluctant to discuss any of this until only a few years ago. Your letter (SAFI AA) is the
• first official document I've seen that says this is declassified. Concerning the Japanese balloons,
we did not use any of them for MOGUL. We didn't pattern our work after the Japanese balloons.
We were very secretive of our work, but the.cover story was not a detailed developed cover story.
Our new hires were not even aware of the purpose. They thought they were just handling
meteorological equipment Any of the flights that had "tags" would have stated, "Research
Balloon Flight, Request Return to NYU". The "senice flights" for Dr Peoples were specific ones
carrying the microphone gear. The radar test flights were not recorded. There was a lot of
pressure to develop the constant level balloons. The tracking was to be done by the Watson Labs
radar for the V-2launches, etc. Starting in early June, 1947 the 307(B) targets came from NYU.
We also lalUlched TNT on some of the balloons to simulate airbursts for detection. All of these
balloons were accolUlted for. These and the radar test flights had no tags-we did not want these
to be associated with our project and the explosive ones would all be destroyed with pressure
switches. To my knowledge, the NYU group were the only ones using balloons in New Mexico
during this time but others were involved in other activities so debris from rockets, aircraft
dropsondes, etc. may have been folUld throughout this area. Initially we did not coordinate any of
our balloon launches with the Civil Aeronautics Administration. We had no contact with any of
the Roswell personnel- although Cracy or Peoples may have. •There were two July 8th press
releases: in the earlier release, Col J D Ryan stated that radar reflectors were being used to track
balloons for wind information. July 8th is the same day the NYU group returned to NYU, so we
had no contact with the Roswell personnel when the announcement was made concerning having ·
folUld the "discs". When we heard the news back in New York, w.e joked that they probably
found one of our balloons. From that time up until about 1980, no one, officially or otherwise
made any contact with me concerning the possible association between MOGUL and the "Roswell
incident"( it was in about 1980 that William Moore contacted me and asked questions about
balloons making "gouges" in the earth). The July lOth Alomorgodo News article shows a
demonstration of some of our multiple balloons and target trains. We had no one there so it was
surprising to see this. It alrilost appears that there was some type of "umbrella cover story" to
protect our work with MOGUL. C' ;f-?:..1...,1