SC: said in a facetious way: "Lets make out like it never existed, because we're wasting our
time." But I didn't say it in such a way that it would be this is so highly classified we won't have
anything to do with it.
RW: O.K. On page 86, it said: "The counterintelligence people came into Roswell on a special
flight from Andrews Army Air Field on July 8. ". So that, to me, implies that this would have been
your CIC Headquarters also sent some other people out there.
SC: Yeah. Right. That's what it sounds like.
RW: Yeah, but you said you would have known if anybody from Washington had come into your
area. sort to speak. More than likely.
SC: Well I certainly hope so. We were secretive and so forth, but I think they would have
touched base with me, since obviously if they talked to Marcel he would have probably said
something to begin with, but they would have wanted to know what I knew. No, 1. ..
MC: Of course Jack Williams was there. Jack could have been on some ofthese...
SC: No Jack was young and sort of scatterbrained, as you well know. And I never relied much
on him for anything. He's the type that would read a book while he was on a road trip driving his
car. He'd finish a book while driving...
RW: While he was actually driving?
SC: Oh sure.
RW: Sounds like the people driving on 95 in Washington there in the traffic jam.
MC: There weren't many people on the road.
SC: Jack rabbits. No. No disrespect to Jack, but he just wasn't a solid citizen as far as rm
concerned. And if anybody from headquarters CIC came in rm positive they would have checked
in with me.
RW: O.K. The page that's kind of devoted to you, if you will, is on 171 and it said that "Schmitt
suggested the possibility that the crash had been a V-2 or A-9, (which is one of derivatives of the
V-2, that we were playing with at that time). Schmitt asked if there had ever...ifthey bad ever
retrieved anything like that anywhere in New Mexico. Never, he said any rocket going off course
would be destroyed by the rauge officer and they wouldn't have wanted to risk injury to civiliaDs
on the ground. Randle asked if he remembered my talk at aD about a flying saucer. He (meaning
you) insisted that nothing at all happened. The former CIC man hadn't heard any rumors about a
crash. All this, including the story shown on "Unsolved Mysteries", was a bunch of garbage.
Schmitt and Randall spent two hours with the man, he told them that any reports he wrote in the