material that would, well at first glance, you would probably think it was aluminum foil,
something of that type. And we gathered up some of it. I don't know whether we even tried to
get all of it. It wasn't scattered~ well, what I call, you know, extensively. Like, it didn't go along
the ground and splatter off some here and some there. We gathered up some of it and took it
back to the base and I remember I had turned it over to Marcel. As I say, I do not remember
whether Marcel was there or not on the site. He could have been. We took it back to the
intelligence room... in the CIC office.
RW: What did you think it was when you recovered it?
SC: I thought a weather balloon.
RW: O.K. Were you familiar with weather balloons at the time?
SC: I had seen them. I had seen them. As I recall, I am really reaching back, I think they were
equipped with a radio sonde or something Hke that, that transmitted data from, when it got up to
altitude (what altitude I have no idea) and somebody on the ground received it and that way they
got some information on what was happening up there.
RW:O.K.
SC: This is all over my head. When I saw it it was to flimsy to be anything to carry people or
anything of that sort. It never crossed my mind that it could be anything but a radio sonde.
RW: How did you get the report that the material was out there?
SC: That I don't recall. Looking back on it, I imagine somebody called the 509th. The 509th
called Marcel and said there is sometbina over here, wherever. and then... more and more thinking
back on it now he must have been. ..l rmJSt have been with him.... "lets go out look and see what
the hell ... "
RW: Did you just make one trip out to the area?
SC: I can't recall ever making more than just that one trip.
RW: And you think it was you, Marcel, and Rickett?
SC: Well, I not sure it was Marcel but I know Rickett was...
RW: Rickett wu there? When you got back with this stuff you turned it over to the Intelligence
Office. What happened then?
SC: Nothing, u far u I'm concerned. I don't think I even made a report. Our CIC had gone
by... 700 CIC was the CIC Headquarters.