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This is the official transcript of a July 26, 2023 hearing held by the U.S. House of Representatives Committee on Oversight and Accountability's Subcommittee on National Security, the Border, and Foreign Affairs. The hearing was titled "Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Implications on National Security, Public Safety, and Government Transparency." Ryan Graves, David Grusch and retired Commander David Fravor testified. Members pressed for transparency and whistleblower protections, and Graves described a near miss involving a dark cube inside a clear sphere.

  • p. 7 …Knapp wrote since 1969, the position of our military has been that UFOs posed no threat…
  • p. 13 …I call on our military leaders and intelligence officials to release more information to the American…
  • p. 14 …The mission commander terminated the flight immediately and returned to base. Our squadron submitted a safety…
  • p. 16 …My testimony is based on information I have been given by indi- viduals with a long…
  • p. 20 …Based on—based off of each of your experiences and observations do you believe UAPs pose…
  • p. 23 …Absolutely, based on interviewing over 40 witnesses over 4 years. Mr. GARCIA. And where? Mr. GRUSCH…
  • p. 34 …crash retrieval programs and maybe which facilities, military bases, that would—the recovered material would be…
  • p. 41 …Several months ago my office received a protected disclosure from Eglin Air Force Base indicating that…
  • p. 46 …the most credible UFO sighting in history, based on all the sensors that were tracking it…
  • p. 50 …I have concerns based on the interviews I conducted under my official duties of potential violations…
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Obviously, I think several of us are going to look forward to get-
ting some answers in a more confidential setting. I assume some
legislation will come out of this.
Mr. BURCHETT. I apologize, Mr. Chairman. I need to compliment
the folks in my office that did a lot of the work on this. Rachel and
Noah sitting behind me here, they are very quiet and humble. But
without them this thing would not have come off like it did. So, I
apologize.
Mr. GROTHMAN. Thank you. I think we are going to want to look
into what we can do to make more of this information public. I
think there is certainly a time period after which it should always
be made public and people have been concerned about these issues,
like I said, since I was in high school.
But in any event, I would like to thank everybody who was here
sticking through the entire hearing.
Without objection, the Members will have five legislative days to
submit materials and to submit additional written questions for the
witnesses, which will be forwarded to the witnesses for their re-
sponse.
If there is no further business, without objection, the Sub-
committee stands adjourned.
[Whereupon, at 12:22 p.m., the Subcommittee was adjourned.]
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