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This is the official transcript of a July 26, 2023 hearing held by the U.S. House of Representatives Committee on Oversight and Accountability's Subcommittee on National Security, the Border, and Foreign Affairs. The hearing was titled "Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Implications on National Security, Public Safety, and Government Transparency." Ryan Graves, David Grusch and retired Commander David Fravor testified. Members pressed for transparency and whistleblower protections, and Graves described a near miss involving a dark cube inside a clear sphere.

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  • p. 9 …eyewitnesses’ accounts made by credible wit- nesses such as doctors, pilots, scientists, and active-duty service…
  • p. 10 …Now, our witnesses will testify today that UAPs have posed a se- rious safety threat and…
  • p. 13 …Navy F–18 pilot with his own UAP experience. The next witness, David Grusch, is a…
  • p. 14 …It silences commercial pilots who fear profes- sional repercussions, discourages witnesses, and is only com- pounded…
  • p. 15 …The majority of witnesses are commercial pilots at major airlines. Often, they are veterans with decades…
  • p. 18 …Years later, I was contacted by the other pilot, Alex Dietrich, and asked if I would…
  • p. 19 …Are your pilots, or pilots that you interact with as part of your organization, do you…
  • p. 22 …I will continue to say that the commercial pilots that have reached out to me through…
  • p. 23 …The objects that are being seen by commercial pilots are performing maneuvers that are unexplainable due…
  • p. 25 …Fravor, do you believe that you witnessed an additional ob- ject under the water in relation…
  • p. 26 …Are there common characteristics to the UAPs that have been cited by different pilots and can…
  • p. 42 …One of the pilots goes to check out that diamond formation and sees a large floating…
  • p. 43 …Chairman, and good morning to our witnesses who are testifying today. I want to thank each…
  • p. 50 …Graves, you said that there are dozens of fellow pilots, military pilots. Are there also commercial…
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C O N T E N T S
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Hearing held on July 26, 2023 ............................................................................... 1
WITNESSES
Mr. Ryan Graves, Executive Director, Americans for Safe Aerospace
Oral Statement ........................................................................................................ 10
Mr. David Grusch, Former National Reconnaissance Office Representative,
Unidentified Aerial Phenomena Task Force, Department of Defense
Oral Statement ........................................................................................................ 11
Commander David Fravor (Ret.), Former Commanding Officer, United States
Navy
Oral Statement ........................................................................................................ 12
Written opening statements and statements for the witnesses are available
on the U.S. House of Representatives Document Repository at:
docs.house.gov.
INDEX OF DOCUMENTS
* Report, Jeremy Corbell, ‘‘The UAP Puzzle’’; submitted by Rep. Burchett.
* Statement for the Record, by George Knapp; submitted by Rep. Burchett.
* Defense Intelligence Reference Document, ‘‘Advanced Space Propulsion
Based on Vacuum (Spacetime Metric) Engineering’’; submitted by Rep.
Burchett.
* Article, NewsNation, ‘‘We are not alone: The UFO whistleblower speaks’’;
submitted by Rep. Luna.
Documents are available at: docs.house.gov.

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