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This is the official transcript of a July 26, 2023 hearing held by the U.S. House of Representatives Committee on Oversight and Accountability's Subcommittee on National Security, the Border, and Foreign Affairs. The hearing was titled "Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Implications on National Security, Public Safety, and Government Transparency." Ryan Graves, David Grusch and retired Commander David Fravor testified. Members pressed for transparency and whistleblower protections, and Graves described a near miss involving a dark cube inside a clear sphere.

  • p. 7 …Knapp wrote since 1969, the position of our military has been that UFOs posed no threat…
  • p. 13 …I call on our military leaders and intelligence officials to release more information to the American…
  • p. 14 …The mission commander terminated the flight immediately and returned to base. Our squadron submitted a safety…
  • p. 16 …My testimony is based on information I have been given by indi- viduals with a long…
  • p. 20 …Based on—based off of each of your experiences and observations do you believe UAPs pose…
  • p. 23 …Absolutely, based on interviewing over 40 witnesses over 4 years. Mr. GARCIA. And where? Mr. GRUSCH…
  • p. 34 …crash retrieval programs and maybe which facilities, military bases, that would—the recovered material would be…
  • p. 41 …Several months ago my office received a protected disclosure from Eglin Air Force Base indicating that…
  • p. 46 …the most credible UFO sighting in history, based on all the sensors that were tracking it…
  • p. 50 …I have concerns based on the interviews I conducted under my official duties of potential violations…
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C O N T E N T S
Page
Hearing held on July 26, 2023 ............................................................................... 1
WITNESSES
Mr. Ryan Graves, Executive Director, Americans for Safe Aerospace
Oral Statement ........................................................................................................ 10
Mr. David Grusch, Former National Reconnaissance Office Representative,
Unidentified Aerial Phenomena Task Force, Department of Defense
Oral Statement ........................................................................................................ 11
Commander David Fravor (Ret.), Former Commanding Officer, United States
Navy
Oral Statement ........................................................................................................ 12
Written opening statements and statements for the witnesses are available
on the U.S. House of Representatives Document Repository at:
docs.house.gov.
INDEX OF DOCUMENTS
* Report, Jeremy Corbell, ‘‘The UAP Puzzle’’; submitted by Rep. Burchett.
* Statement for the Record, by George Knapp; submitted by Rep. Burchett.
* Defense Intelligence Reference Document, ‘‘Advanced Space Propulsion
Based on Vacuum (Spacetime Metric) Engineering’’; submitted by Rep.
Burchett.
* Article, NewsNation, ‘‘We are not alone: The UFO whistleblower speaks’’;
submitted by Rep. Luna.
Documents are available at: docs.house.gov.

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