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This is the official transcript of a July 26, 2023 hearing held by the U.S. House of Representatives Committee on Oversight and Accountability's Subcommittee on National Security, the Border, and Foreign Affairs. The hearing was titled "Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Implications on National Security, Public Safety, and Government Transparency." Ryan Graves, David Grusch and retired Commander David Fravor testified. Members pressed for transparency and whistleblower protections, and Graves described a near miss involving a dark cube inside a clear sphere.

  • p. 5 …Without objection, the Chair may declare a recess at any time. Additionally, without objection, the following…
  • p. 7 …I would say that is the biggest understatement of the decade. He also goes on to…
  • p. 8 …And I yield back the remainder of my time, I think—is it to Rep- resentative…
  • p. 9 …Even more alarming is the fact that these eyewitnesses are, many times, service members and have…
  • p. 10 …Now, some of the earliest reporting on this issue was a groundbreaking 2017 New York Times…
  • p. 12 …I want to yield the two and a half minutes, the remainder of my time, to…
  • p. 13 …I believe more information is known about the 171 instances. It is time for Congress to…
  • p. 15 11 was no official acknowledgement of the incident and no further mechanism to report the sightings…
  • p. 16 …At the time, due to my extensive executive level intelligence sup- port duties I was cleared…
  • p. 18 …the articles in the 2017 New York Times and it removed the stigma on the topic…
  • p. 19 …for the United States and best for the citizens. I thank you for your time. Thank…
  • p. 21 …Now, that was our personal firsthand experience at the time. Since then, as I have engaged…
  • p. 25 …Like many others in 2017, I saw the New York Times article come out as well…
  • p. 28 …They had official documentation and records from the event that the witness held over the years…
  • p. 29 25 provide precise kinematics on the object as well as the fleet of ob- jects that…
  • p. 31 …I will yield the balance of my time back. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. GROTHMAN. Ms…
  • p. 37 …I just—my time is limited. Mr. Graves, one of your main concerns that the FAA…
  • p. 39 …I know for a fact the video or the pic- tures that came out in the…
  • p. 46 …our speed in no time at all. Mr. LANGWORTHY. Now, if the fastest plane on Earth…
  • p. 48 …Chairman, with that, I will yield the remainder of my time to my fellow colleague from…
  • p. 50 …Chairman, I yield the remain- der of my time. Mr. GROTHMAN. OK. We will go to…
  • p. 51 …credibility to the New York Times article. And so after about six times I said OK…
  • p. 53 49 I also want to note for our witnesses and for the public that I am…
  • p. 54 …I need to compliment the folks in my office that did a lot of the work…
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We will hear testimony from witnesses today with a long record
of service to the American people and with subject matter exper-
tise.
Our witnesses have a unique opportunity to share their perspec-
tive, insights, and their experiences with the American people and
I encourage all of my colleagues to engage with these difficult ques-
tions with an open mind and to follow the facts on behalf of our
country.
I also just want to say, more broadly, that we should look at this
hearing and believe that everything is on the table as it relates to
UAPs. I think an open mind is absolutely the best.
I want to yield the two and a half minutes, the remainder of my
time, to the representative from Florida, Representative
Moskowitz, for an opening statement. He also has been very much
engaged in this issue and I want to thank him for his leadership.
Congressman?
Mr. MOSKOWITZ. Thank you, Ranking Member Garcia. Thank
you, Mr. Chairman. I want to thank Tim Burchett and Anna Pau-
lina Luna for their leadership in pushing this hearing forward.
I want to thank, obviously, committee staff and their staff work-
ing on this on a bipartisan basis because many Americans are
deeply interested in this issue, and it should not take the potential
of nonhuman origin to bring us together.
Additionally, I want to thank the witnesses for coming forward
to share your perspectives, your thoughts, and the sightings of
UAPs. Unlike other hearings many times in Congress you are not
here to help a political party, but you are here to share information
with the American people, and it is not something that is just going
on in this Administration.
It is something that has spanned many administrations. For dec-
ades many Americans have been fascinated by objects mysterious
and unexplained and it is long past time that they got some an-
swers.
The American public has a right to learn about technologies of
unknown origins, nonhuman intelligence, and unexplainable phe-
nomena. Those are not the words of a UFO Twitter account. That
is a direct quote from Majority Leader Chuck Schumer, that the
American public has a right to learn about technologies of un-
known origins, nonhuman intelligence, and unexplainable phe-
nomena.
In an interview with Fox News, recent former Director of Na-
tional Intelligence John Ratcliffe confirmed the U.S. Government is
aware a lot more sightings of UAPs and that they have not made
that information public. I quote, ‘‘There are a lot more sightings
that have not been made public,’’ Ratcliffe said to Fox News.
For me, this hearing is about transparency. We, unfortunately,
live in a time in which many people distrust government and our
institutions and over classification of information away from the
American public or even Congress contributes to today’s politics.
The American people have regular questions. What are UAPs?
How come the media does not report more on them? Are they for-
eign adversaries? Are they U.S. technology? Are they something
else?

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