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This is the official transcript of a July 26, 2023 hearing held by the House Committee on Oversight and Accountability's Subcommittee on National Security, the Border, and Foreign Affairs, titled "Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Implications on National Security, Public Safety, and Government Transparency." Witnesses Ryan Graves, David Grusch and retired Commander David Fravor testified under oath. Members pressed for transparency, and Graves described a near midair encounter with a cube inside a clear sphere.
“Sightings”15 pages
- p. 6 …However,
AARO’s budget remains classified, prohibiting meaningful over-
sight from Congress.
In addition to AARO…
- p. 7 …Some
have even confided in me that they have had UFO sightings of
their own.
Those…
- p. 8 …Yet, from Roswell, New Mexico to the coast of Jacksonville, Flor-
ida, the sightings of UAPs…
- p. 9 …But we will hear from people who have had personal sightings
rather than Pentagon bureaucrats who…
- p. 12 …Government is
aware a lot more sightings of UAPs and that they have not made
that…
- p. 14 …These sightings are not rare or isolated.
They are routine. Military aircrew and commercial pilots, trained…
- p. 15 11
was no official acknowledgement of the incident and no further
mechanism to report the sightings…
- p. 21 …of them also had their own eye sightings as well of these ob-
jects.
Now, that…
- p. 28 …Later in
the evening, post sunset, there were reports of other sightings on
base including some…
- p. 36 …Are they required to issue any disclosure re-
garding UAP sightings or do they engage in…
- p. 43 …What percentage of UAP
sightings, in your belief, go unreported by our pilots?
Mr. GRAVES. This…
- p. 46 …You know, it has been said it is prob-
ably the most credible UFO sighting in…
- p. 50 …Are there also commercial pilots
who have encountered the same kind of sightings that you de…
- p. 51 …and that was a very close visual sighting.
Mr. RASKIN. And you were in one of…
- p. 52 …available to the
public to report these sightings?
Mr. GRAVES. Right now I do not think…
U.S. GOVERNMENT PUBLISHING OFFICE
WASHINGTON :53–022 PDF 2023
UNIDENTIFIED ANOMALOUS PHENOMENA:
IMPLICATIONS ON NATIONAL SECURITY,
PUBLIC SAFETY, AND GOVERNMENT
TRANSPARENCY
HEARING
BEFORE THE
SUBCOMMITTEE ON NATIONAL SECURITY,
THE BORDER, AND FOREIGN AFFAIRS
OF THE
COMMITTEE ON OVERSIGHT
AND ACCOUNTABILITY
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
ONE HUNDRED EIGHTEENTH CONGRESS
FIRST SESSION
JULY 26, 2023
Serial No. 118–53
Printed for the use of the Committee on Oversight and Accountability
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