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This is the official transcript of a July 26, 2023 hearing held by the House Committee on Oversight and Accountability's Subcommittee on National Security, the Border, and Foreign Affairs, titled "Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Implications on National Security, Public Safety, and Government Transparency." Witnesses Ryan Graves, David Grusch and retired Commander David Fravor testified under oath. Members pressed for transparency, and Graves described a near midair encounter with a cube inside a clear sphere.
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- p. 5 …Without objection, the Chair may declare a
recess at any time. Additionally, without objection, the following…
- p. 7 …I
would say that is the biggest understatement of the decade.
He also goes on to…
- p. 8 …And I yield back the remainder of my time, I think—is it to Rep-
resentative…
- p. 9 …Even more alarming is the fact that these eyewitnesses are,
many times, service members and have…
- p. 10 …Now, some of the earliest reporting on this issue was a
groundbreaking 2017 New York Times…
- p. 12 …I want to yield the two and a half minutes, the remainder of my
time, to…
- p. 13 …I believe more information is known about the 171 instances. It
is time for Congress to…
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was no official acknowledgement of the incident and no further
mechanism to report the sightings…
- p. 16 …At the time, due to my extensive executive level intelligence sup-
port duties I was cleared…
- p. 18 …the articles in the 2017
New York Times and it removed the stigma on the topic…
- p. 19 …for the United
States and best for the citizens.
I thank you for your time. Thank…
- p. 21 …Now, that was our personal firsthand experience at the time.
Since then, as I have engaged…
- p. 25 …Like many others in 2017, I saw the New
York Times article come out as well…
- p. 28 …They had official documentation and records
from the event that the witness held over the years…
- p. 29 25
provide precise kinematics on the object as well as the fleet of ob-
jects that…
- p. 31 …I will yield the balance of my time back.
Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Mr. GROTHMAN. Ms…
- p. 37 …I just—my time
is limited.
Mr. Graves, one of your main concerns that the FAA…
- p. 39 …I know for a fact the video or the pic-
tures that came out in the…
- p. 46 …our
speed in no time at all.
Mr. LANGWORTHY. Now, if the fastest plane on Earth…
- p. 48 …Chairman, with that, I will yield the remainder of my time
to my fellow colleague from…
- p. 50 …Chairman, I yield the remain-
der of my time.
Mr. GROTHMAN. OK. We will go to…
- p. 51 …credibility to the New York Times article. And so after
about six times I said OK…
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I also want to note for our witnesses and for the public that I
am…
- p. 54 …I need to compliment
the folks in my office that did a lot of the work…
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