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This is the official transcript of a July 26, 2023 hearing held by the House Committee on Oversight and Accountability's Subcommittee on National Security, the Border, and Foreign Affairs, titled "Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Implications on National Security, Public Safety, and Government Transparency." Witnesses Ryan Graves, David Grusch and retired Commander David Fravor testified under oath. Members pressed for transparency, and Graves described a near midair encounter with a cube inside a clear sphere.
“Encounters”11 pages
- p. 10 …Now, pilots have reported encounters for years and because of
the stigma around reporting these incidents…
- p. 14 …tary veterans who have confided their similar encounters with me.
Today I would like to highlight…
- p. 15 …Soon these encounters became so frequent that aircrew would
discuss the risk of UAP as part…
- p. 19 …trained and briefed on how
to handle encounters with UAPs?
Mr. GRAVES. No. Right now, military…
- p. 20 …Was this incident the only UAP event that you
encountered while you were a pilot?
Commander…
- p. 21 …30 pilots right now that have had encounters with UAPs. But
you have also, I believe…
- p. 22 …not pi-
lots who may have UAP encounters? Do either of you have any sug-
gestions…
- p. 25 …Graves, you reported UAP encounters during training
flights, I think, and have since come forward to…
- p. 26 …system-
atic inventory of all of such encounters. Is that right?
Mr. GRAVES. Yes, and I…
- p. 44 …It took over 15 years for your encounter with the Tic
Tac to be declassified. Do…
- p. 50 …I wonder was
this the first time that you encountered a UFO or a UAP in…
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