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This is the official transcript of a July 26, 2023 hearing held by the House Committee on Oversight and Accountability's Subcommittee on National Security, the Border, and Foreign Affairs, titled "Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Implications on National Security, Public Safety, and Government Transparency." Witnesses Ryan Graves, David Grusch and retired Commander David Fravor testified under oath. Members pressed for transparency, and Graves described a near midair encounter with a cube inside a clear sphere.

  • p. 7 …Knapp wrote since 1969, the position of our military has been that UFOs posed no threat…
  • p. 13 …I call on our military leaders and intelligence officials to release more information to the American…
  • p. 14 …The mission commander terminated the flight immediately and returned to base. Our squadron submitted a safety…
  • p. 16 …My testimony is based on information I have been given by indi- viduals with a long…
  • p. 20 …Based on—based off of each of your experiences and observations do you believe UAPs pose…
  • p. 23 …Absolutely, based on interviewing over 40 witnesses over 4 years. Mr. GARCIA. And where? Mr. GRUSCH…
  • p. 34 …crash retrieval programs and maybe which facilities, military bases, that would—the recovered material would be…
  • p. 41 …Several months ago my office received a protected disclosure from Eglin Air Force Base indicating that…
  • p. 46 …the most credible UFO sighting in history, based on all the sensors that were tracking it…
  • p. 50 …I have concerns based on the interviews I conducted under my official duties of potential violations…
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C O N T E N T S
Page
Hearing held on July 26, 2023 ............................................................................... 1
WITNESSES
Mr. Ryan Graves, Executive Director, Americans for Safe Aerospace
Oral Statement ........................................................................................................ 10
Mr. David Grusch, Former National Reconnaissance Office Representative,
Unidentified Aerial Phenomena Task Force, Department of Defense
Oral Statement ........................................................................................................ 11
Commander David Fravor (Ret.), Former Commanding Officer, United States
Navy
Oral Statement ........................................................................................................ 12
Written opening statements and statements for the witnesses are available
on the U.S. House of Representatives Document Repository at:
docs.house.gov.
INDEX OF DOCUMENTS
* Report, Jeremy Corbell, ‘‘The UAP Puzzle’’; submitted by Rep. Burchett.
* Statement for the Record, by George Knapp; submitted by Rep. Burchett.
* Defense Intelligence Reference Document, ‘‘Advanced Space Propulsion
Based on Vacuum (Spacetime Metric) Engineering’’; submitted by Rep.
Burchett.
* Article, NewsNation, ‘‘We are not alone: The UFO whistleblower speaks’’;
submitted by Rep. Luna.
Documents are available at: docs.house.gov.

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