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Office of the Secretary of Defense: 022_SASC_Transcript_2023
Department of Defense. Office of the Secretary of Defense. · 2023 · 50 pages · text from the file's own layer
This is a stenographic transcript of an April 19, 2023 hearing of the Senate Armed Services Subcommittee on Emerging Threats and Capabilities, chaired by Senator Kirsten Gillibrand, on the mission and budget of the All-Domain Anomaly Resolution Office. AARO released it in full in 2025. Director Sean Kirkpatrick testified that AARO has found no credible evidence of extraterrestrial activity and that most reports resolve into mundane objects. He also presented trend data and two declassified MQ-9 videos, one of which was resolved as a commuter aircraft.
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19 lean in on this issue and the work that he has accomplished
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- p. 5 …in interagency coordination after
14 the NSC Working Group disbands.
15 In the fiscal year 2023…
- p. 7 …Adversaries like China and Russia are working to
9 hold U.S. interests, including our homeland…
- p. 9 …24 All leadership that I have had the pleasure of working
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- p. 12 …As such, we are
10 working with industry, academia, and the scientific
11 community which bring…
- p. 14 …10 In the wake of the PRC HAB event the interagency is
11 working to better…
- p. 15 …AARO is working very hard to do the
14 same. That is how science works, not…
- p. 16 …Much remains to be done but the hard work is
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12 Thank you for…
- p. 18 …How are we going to get more
22 data? We are working with the joint staff…
- p. 20 …But this is the kind of data that we have to work
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- p. 26 …22 In the course of your work have you become aware of any
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- p. 28 …They are just willing to
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22 Are there…
- p. 29 …I appreciate that and that
2 is why it is so important that you are working…
- p. 30 …24 We are also working very closely with Joint Staff and
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- p. 34 …So that is actually wrapped into the
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- p. 35 …work, here is what we have seen work, here is what does not
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- p. 36 …8 DOD and DNI are working through that now. I would have
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- p. 39 …I worked with the director of Joint Staff,
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- p. 43 …11 So part of our budget is working through what does that
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- p. 46 …We have a lot of work to do. So if you do not hear
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1 surveille or attack us.
2 Finally, we need to ensure efficient interagency
3 coordination. Multiple elements of the DOD and IC own a
4 piece of this mission. To add value, AARO's efforts cannot
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6 Thank you again. We look forward to your testimony.
7 Senator Gillibrand: Dr. Kirkpatrick, you can give your
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IAW FY24 NDAA, Section 1841(a)(1)(C)
Date: 2/6/2025
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