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Office of the Secretary of Defense: 022_SASC_Transcript_2023

Department of Defense. Office of the Secretary of Defense. · 2023 · 50 pages · text from the file's own layer

This is a stenographic transcript of an April 19, 2023 hearing of the Senate Armed Services Subcommittee on Emerging Threats and Capabilities, chaired by Senator Kirsten Gillibrand, on the mission and budget of the All-Domain Anomaly Resolution Office. AARO released it in full in 2025. Director Sean Kirkpatrick testified that AARO has found no credible evidence of extraterrestrial activity and that most reports resolve into mundane objects. He also presented trend data and two declassified MQ-9 videos, one of which was resolved as a commuter aircraft.

  • p. 15 …working with 7 our interagency partners at NASA to appropriately inform 8 U.S. government's…
  • p. 41 …So 3 NASA is providing a liaison for us. I have FBI liaison. I 4 have…
  • p. 43 …how the independent study being done by NASA complements 19 AARO's work? 20 Mr. Kirkpatrick…
  • p. 44 …25 Where NASA comes in and the study that they are doing, Page determined to be…
  • p. 45 …20 That is what NASA is focused on right now is what is -- what 21 are…
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1 we are unable to reach defendable conclusions that meet the
2 high scientific standards we set for resolution and I will
3 not close a case that I cannot defend the conclusions of.
4 I recognize that this answer is unsatisfying to those
5 who in good faith assume that what they see with their eyes,
6 with their cameras, and with their radars is
7 incontrovertible evidence of extraordinary characteristics
8 and performance.
9 Yet, time and again with sufficient scientific quality
10 data it is fact that UAP often but not always resolve into
11 readily explainable sources. Humans are subject to
12 deception and illusions, sensors to unexpected responses and
13 malfunctions and, in some cases, intentional interference.
14 Getting to the handful of cases that pass this level of
15 scrutiny is the mission of AARO.
16 That is not to say that UAP once resolved are no longer
17 of national security interest, however. On the contrary,
18 learning that a UAP is not of exotic origin but is instead
19 just a quadcopter or a balloon leads to the question of who
20 is operating that quadcopter and to what purpose. The
21 answers to those questions will inform potential national
22 security or law enforcement responses.
23 AARO is a member of the department's support to the
24 administration's Tiger Team effort to deal with
25 stratospheric objects such as the PRC high-altitude balloon.
Page determined to be Unclassified
Reviewed by Chief of Staff, AARO
IAW FY24 NDAA, Section 1841(a)(1)(C)
Date: 2/6/2025
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