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3 December l9S2
SU~ J Flying Saucers
l. >.t 1100 yesterday morni:ig I met with Dr. Julbs A. Stratton,
Executive Vice President and Pro\-:>:,t ot Mu:sachusett.s. Institute or
Tecilnol.og:,, a.nu Dr. ~ax l-iillikan, D1rect:,r o! C:::.iIS. I brie!ed tben
on tile n.rious ne~ reports or sigQti.,gs i.,clwiin; ~• Uustone Base
Case, tbe Flo:-ida Scout }'.Ute:-, the iltlh !"!otion Pictu..~s, etc. I wo
broug:it Dr. Stratto:i uo to date on cievelo:,,ients ;.iiic:h had. occurred
since o~ previous di~iusi:,n o! tile s1.1tject in J.ugust. Dr. Stratton
reiterated his earlier p:isitio:,. that thl.s i s a subject ~nicii must be
1.~~sti6ate1 u.:i be said ~,at p:-obacl.j tee best ~e•ns or gettL~I a
thoro~~..!.y ccr.;>ete:1t :-e~e;, o! the prob.la 'li~Jld be th.-=>u.:i P:oject
t.r:COi.lf. He sue, no-.;eve:-1 t.1iat. i:l ...-1.iw o! t.1e cielicate po,ition in
relatio:i to Ai: Force , as a res~t or the "SWTcer St::uey ?~ort", any
accepu.,ce of tbis pr:>je:t by !.C:C:t~l JT:USt. be based on :..ir Force con-
currence or on a.."l i?lce,e~e:it. ?::-oposal- from one or the:--o~i:er services.
He· said that. A.l!:-ed Hill ;;o:lld be t:'\e best. inan to bead fae group.
Ass··- 1-:l thd it ~ht ?:":>-:1! i!:?:-ac-;ica.1. t.o pl,2.ee tile ?roject at
LIN~i.::, ',;!? ex;>lcred O-:.:l~ possi:iilit.~ s inc~t:di.,6 Fri.,cet:m and C..J.
Tecb. Dr . St:-atto~ !e!.t ~':7 stro:lg:.:,· t.i':at C.J. Tech lo-::>uld be the
bet~e:- o! t::.e ~~o i., vie~ o; t~e presence t.~ere of Ro:ertson, Lauritson,
;--s;>ft.ier"Jon !!!:-:;::>ra.-'"7 ci'.!-=:,· f:-o:: ?:-i.,c:2to:1) , !·:il.li.:Can 's brot.'ler and
.,-·"'--Ot;-i!:-s; ::-. S-::-c.ttc:, as ;.;!:i partic:ula::-1:,· that \.e kee? ~L-: i.-u'0:7.!d
of tile ~=-=~::s ;.'\at. "e :-.2. '.-:~ i.-i ::a".:ir.1 tnis p!'o':>l.e:i i.,"Testi~ated as: . he is p-::-s:::-2-l!.y •re':)· i.,t-e:-ested .s .:ell as fu.l~ a..-2:e of t..'le potential
1 • ••• danger ~..::. !.."?l icatio:-.s c: t.:ie sit:.1ation.
2. FolJowing tl::.e :::eetbs -.,it.'1 Drs . Stratto!l and fiillikc.n, I
bad l'.1.,ch at. Cle ; ..c\.ll ty Cl•.1·0 .:it.'\ J..l.oyd Ber}:n!r a:id .!errol:i Zacharias
an:i bri2~2~ ~'".e::: o:i t.'l! rec~:1t cases a nd o:.i:- f eeli.!':f;S re6ardL"lg t.'leir
ir.plica-;i:ins. ::e:-i-::'le:-, ;.";lile as;?arcntly not. i..,~eres~:i in ~king a
perso:ia.l ?C.:t, felt strc:, 6ly t!lat t.'lc sa~cer p:-o::!.e:i she~ be
thor::'.l.,;:.l:; i.,v~st.i5:?t.!:i :ro::, a scie:1~.i!i: ?Oi.,t o! view. Zacha:-w
did not a~.?!~ to be g:-ea~y i.'1-:erested in the proolea am r:aee only
one s::.~;;e:.t.!.-,:-., ~.e. tr.at. .i'"lirley C\.i;uoy of Col~b1a Ur.1v!rsity be
brou~-:. i.,.:.o the pic-:.i:e. CUi.T.':>y took his ph:.,si:s der-ee at t~e S2l:19
til:9 as 2.a:!:larias; is :l.,.., at. Coluncia University, havi..,g duri.,f: t.'le
war 'teen a t:avy scie:1tist work.i.ng on ASrJ. Zacharias sug1?;eS~ Qui.11by
bee.use t::! la-:.~e:- is p:-:,"::z~y the ::iost ex;:ert :.a.n i.'l the country
or rc.azic a.-:~ ge::2:-2.1 chi:ane :-y. ·
3. n:r conclusion fr0111 these conversations is that it ~ill protiably
be necessaey to secure the !ull backinv. of DCI in order th.it a scien-
tific revie:, of thi:; n:-o~l er:1 ~:iy be laid on. Witb:,ut this bacl<ini:, it
wou.li prot.oly be i:::;:,ossib1e to secure the Air Force cooperation which
woulrl ~ ~ ces !.~J, particularly in the matt r or a vail.lbili ty or
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