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MOD file DEFE 24/2032/1

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This Ministry of Defence file, released through The National Archives and published by The Black Vault, holds the MOD's 2002 handling of Dr David Clarke's requests for UFO documents under the Code of Practice on Access to Government Information. It includes the MOD's 9 December 2002 reply, which covered reports from 1976, 1980, 1993 and 1996 and charged £260. It also contains internal emails and file requisitions, plus Foreign Office and United Nations papers from 1978 on Grenada's proposal for UFO research.

  • p. 7 …The work has taken 21 hours and 20 minutes to complete and as, indicated in my…
  • p. 9 …United Nations to establish an agency or working group for research into UFOs. This was mentioned…
  • p. 19 …United Nations to establish an agency or working group for research A into unidentified flying objects…
  • p. 28 …further re~uests the Con1nittee to submit a pre1 imlru1i:y report on its work by…
  • p. 30 …delegation, with the full support of Premier Gairy, sought to establish an ad hoc working group…
  • p. 38 …out to his co-pilot, First Officer Lee Boyd, The jet pilot's instruments started working…
  • p. 40 …lodestone, was thought to be the I.work of the Devil, as indeed were some of…
  • p. 41 …I acknowledge, how- ever, that, for example, the works of Darwin were once thought incompatible with…
  • p. 45 …at this time, but we should start working for it. If we had a worldwide organisa…
  • p. 46 …He has done a we are studying hagiography-and I had job of work and I…
  • p. 57 …I have noticed that so far none of who might be willing to work for a…
  • p. 58 …ful job for ··or!unity, I •r working re, if that ,; for the 'quircd. I summings…
  • p. 64 …We must return to work in this dreary old world and the difficulties we are in…
  • p. 100 …debate-to pay tribute to the valuable work which broadcasters un- doubtedly play in our society…
  • p. 102 …t Kingdom to study unidentified flying objects, working closely with the French , one. ·:.••i The MINISTER…
  • p. 104 …She has extended and ex-~ objects, working closely with the French panded in the best possible…
  • p. 111 …Every tim~ something appears, we send it to tr~t specialist body which is working, basically…
  • p. 118 …as it can be deduced from the work of the CNES, where Mr Jean-claude Poher…
  • p. 145 …debate-to pay tribute to the valuable work which broadcasters un- doubtedly play in our society…
  • p. 148 …objects, working closely with the French· . ~ •. 9ne. The MINISTER of STATE,' DEPAR,T,~i MENT of…
  • p. 150 …She has extended and ex-, objects, working closely with the French pa.nded ,in the best…
  • p. 160 …Every tim~ something appears, we send it to tl~t specialist body which is working, basically…
  • p. 167 …the phenomenon as it can be deduced from the work of the CNES, where Mr Jean…
  • p. 315 …Unfortunate! y the·· Cl ee-Hi 11 · radar head was not working on primary radar during…
  • p. 383 …during the recording period, therefore, only aircraft working Secondary Surveillance Radar can be seen. 3. Listed…
  • p. 400 …painstaking investigation over a period of 8 working days and, although all the light phenomenae have…
  • p. 405 …observed by all crew members intermittently (busy working the ship) from 0246 til daybreak. - observed about…
  • p. 413 …who axe presumably all quite used to working a.t night and therefore are quite fa…
  • p. 418 ... .,.,--{ ... •. ,,.. tlbdar operators who work routinely in particular areas using the same radar head, as is borne…
  • p. 433 …painstaking investigation over a period of a working days and, although all the light phenomenae have…
  • p. 438 …observed by all crew members intermittently (busy working the ship) from 0246 til daybreak. - observed about…
  • p. 444 …pr~~sum<~~Ul) all quite used to working at night and therefore looking at the sky…
  • p. 449 41bdar operators who work routinely in particular areas using the same radar head, as is borne…
  • p. 460 …I may decide if I wish the work to continue. With reference to your comments in…
  • p. 463 …This estimate indicates the largest period of time that might be required, clearly if the work…
  • p. 472 …of the sum involved in undertaking the work I have requested. If the sum does exceed…
  • p. 477 …I estimate that undertaking the work you have requested will take around 23 hours. Four hours…
  • p. 481 …certain amount of work might cost. "I estimate that undertaking the work you have requested will…
  • p. 486 …Dr Clarke is entitled to the first four hours work free and every following hour (or…
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:'!rp of mystery, for the removal of
The Earl of CORK and ORRERY: I
thought that I had my noble friend right,
my Lords; in other words, the telescope
has not seen anything that was inexpiic-
ab!e. But I do not think that that is really
an argument that something does not
exist. The qu~stion is: what kind of
thing c::n it be'? I hope that my :r;oble
friend docs r:ot think that I am going on
about him-I no Jonzer am. How is it
possible to maintain more than a certain
degree of doubt in 1979?
I remember, as may some other noble
Lords, one or two of whom may be present
in the Chamber, my predecessor who sat
in this Hous.::. He was born in the year
1886. When he was born there were no
moto·r-bicydes or gramophones, fountain
pens, safety razors or electric trains.
Messrs. Daimler and Benz in Germany
were just putting the first petrol-driven car
on to the road, and Einstein, I think, was
eight years old. !v1y noble and gallant
kinsman, when he finally left the active list
of the Navy at a very advanced age, had
lived into the age of the nuclear submarine,
having hegun his first sea-going voyage
under sail. That was the band of progress
represented technologica!ly in the lifetime
of one serving naval officer. What would
he have said had he been tc>ld that in my
Iieftime-and I am not even all that near
the end of it, either-! should see men on
the moon; or computer tect:nology carried
to the pitch that it has reached; or that
there would be such' an outbreak of
wisdom foliowing Einstein and men like
Schrodinger, Heisenberg and others; or
the astonishing ascent of knowledge into
the atomic world?
doubt, for even the eliminating of some of
the dangers which may er.ist and to which
the right reverend Prelate referred, some
kind of an open inquiry ought to be set up.
II am rather inclined to agree with the
noble Lord-I think that it was the noble
Lord, Lord Kings Norton-who said that
I probably it should not b•!. an intra-
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governmental inquiry. I think it should
be somctin' , 'ther more open than that,
but it ough. J lake place. If a group is
set up within this House, as suggested by
the noble Earl himself,. that would be
excellent. I should myelf be entirely in
fav0nr of it. In any case, let us get this
matter cleared up and into the open, and
by all means Jet us take it seriously,
bec:au;,e this is a serious subject. Far too
many people are taking it seriously for it
not to be a serious subject.
Finally, I wish to voice my most
sincere congratulations to . my noble
friend who made his maiden speech this
afternoon. It is very impertinent of me
to congratulte him upon it, but I should
like to say how much I enjoyed it. I have
no.t yet said anything complimentary about
the noble Earl who initiated the debate.
I have left this to the end on purpose
because I think it may not be entirely
realised what a service he has done.
This is the first such debatt that has
occurred in any societ)' such as this par-
ticular one; and this society, by which I
mean this noble House of P;;rliament, is
probably the only legislative assembly in
the world in which it could happen. l
hope that it will have repercussions which
will spread far beyond this Chamber.
What the outcome will be I do not
know, but, in initiating the ripples which
I hope will spread all over the surface of
the mill-pond, the noble Earl has done a
most valuable service.
· · This has all happened in the lifetime
of many of us, and yet we sit here; some
of us, and say that marvels which have
been ·postulated by some, and which
indeed are less in magnitude than most of 10.10 p.m.
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impossible. We are not all saying that- should like to join with the noble Earl,
perhaps nobody is saying that-but the Lord Cork· and Orrery, in saying how
argument is quite untenable. I have no grateful we are to the nobie Eari. Lord
wish to express any view on what a UFO Clancarty, for initiating this debate on
may be. What I wish to say is that there UFOs. Of course, the subject has been
is no knowing what it is not. It may be a of considerable interest in this country,
product of some kind of sign language, as and I hope our discussions, which, as the
the noble Earl, Lord Kimberley, men- I noble Earl rightly said, have been the
tioned.' It may "be mechanical. It may first that we haTe had-- in your Lordships'
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