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MOD file DEFE 24/2032/1

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This Ministry of Defence file, released through The National Archives and published by The Black Vault, holds the MOD's 2002 handling of Dr David Clarke's requests for UFO documents under the Code of Practice on Access to Government Information. It includes the MOD's 9 December 2002 reply, which covered reports from 1976, 1980, 1993 and 1996 and charged £260. It also contains internal emails and file requisitions, plus Foreign Office and United Nations papers from 1978 on Grenada's proposal for UFO research.

  • p. 39 …the of Defence, TvL Robert GaHev, W::'l.s int.::r- ufonauts d~c1dcd. to make…
  • p. 42 …Cor,1mander Even if one accepts that there may be life Robert McLaughiin, United States Navy…
  • p. 55 …think th:.;t the French Iindeed, incredulous, of what the noble Minister of Defence, ~L Robert…
  • p. 65 …my ancestor although he is dead--called Robert Boyle who founded a ·society called the Royal…
  • p. 69 …the then French Minister of Defence, M. Robert Galley gave in 1974 on the subject of…
  • p. 72 …62·9 63·2 .,I Lord GORONWY-ROBERTS: The Government's initiatives on resolutions on arms…
  • p. 95 …Inter radio on 21 February 1974 Nonsieur Robert Galley, then French Ninister of Defence, stated that…
  • p. 98 …Whether they are aware that Monsieur Robert Galley, the then French Minister of Defence, in his…
  • p. 99 …Inter radio on 21st February 1974 Monsieur Robert Galley then French Minister of Defen~e, stated…
  • p. 101 …2h:t Fcbr;Jar; 1974 Monsie-:.1:: Robert Galley. th.;n French. M!n!sier vf…
  • p. 107 …the then French Minister of Defence M•. Robert Galley about unidentified flying objects by M. Jean…
  • p. 108 …The French authorities have now replied, and I enclcse the full text of~ Robert Galley's…
  • p. 109 I ,; I .... ~ • ...... .."' ~ , 'ITEl<VI~ W!'l!H M ROBERT GAtk'"'Y: MINIST~ FOR THE AR}1ED…
  • p. 113 …M Robert Galley Actually the Minister responsible for National Defence, that is, a man who knows…
  • p. 114 …M Robert Galley: "!t is true that there are things which are not understood and which…
  • p. 127 …Lord GORO Y-ROBERTS: The two protocols "" re opened for signature on 12th Dec nber 1977…
  • p. 128 …French Minister of Defence I I M. Robert Galley about unidentified flying objects by M. Jean…
  • p. 135 …then French liftnister o:f Defence, Monsieur Robert Galley, was inter- viewed by Jean-Claude Bourret…
  • p. 137 …contains an oocurate translation of r.r Robert Galley's broadcast in 1974. It also introduces…
  • p. 138 …the then French Minister of Defence, Monsieur Robert Galley, was interviewed by Jean-Claude Bourret about…
  • p. 141 …Inter radio on 21 February f974 Nonsieur Robert Galley, then French ~linister of Defence, stated that…
  • p. 144 …Inter radto on 21st February 1974 Monsieur Robert Galley then French Minister of Defen~e, stated…
  • p. 147 …Whether they are aware that Mon~ieur Robert Galley, the then French Minister of Defence, in…
  • p. 153 …the then French Minister of Defence M•. Robert Galley about unidentified flying objects by M. Jean…
  • p. 154 …the then French Minister of Defence M. Robert Galley about unidentified flying objects by M. Jean…
  • p. 155 …French Minister of Defence i I M. Robert Galley about unidentified flying objects by M. Jean…
  • p. 157 …The French authorities have now replied, a.nd I enclcse the full text of M Robert…
  • p. 162 …M Robert Galley Actually the Minister responsible for National Defence, that is, a man who knows…
  • p. 163 …M Robert Galley: "!t is true that there are things which are not understood and which…
  • p. 181 …French lJti.nister o~ Defence, Mons;eur Robert Galley, was inter- viewed by Jean-Claude Bourret…
  • p. 183 …an OOC\1-rate translation of M Robert Galley's broadcast in 1974. It a~so…
  • p. 184 …the then French Minister of Defence, Monsieur Robert Galley, was interviewed by Jean-Claude Bourret about…
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l3 why Jcdrell Bank can That w0uld have bern scYerely distressing
i' in proclaim that they have had no evidence to my late lamented friend Lord Conesford~
'orld of sightings of any description which arc and indee:d to me.
the not perfectly explicable as natural pheno-
. the mena within our own universe. lf there is an agency set up for collecting
and correlation of information, as I hope
there will be. I suppo~:e it could be called
"Ufo info··, which would have a certain
elfin charm.· But l am admittedly being
absurd, and being so on purpo~e. T am
doing it for defensive reasons, and I hope
that the noble Earl. will not think that I
am being offensive. I am not. I hope
that somebody will think of a better
word. There is in fact a Greek word
" teras", meaning a portent in the sen-;e
of a marvel or wonder, which would
generate quite !iicc!y a teratologist, or
teratology. In fact l am not sure that
teratology is not in the dictionary as the
~tudy of monsters. It i~ not a word that
is widely used. it i~ not on everyone's
lips very of:cn, and it wouid not really
matter if it v.·cre taken over to refer to
portents. There is a precedent for this
kind of thing, in teievisi0n. As noble
Lords will know, television originally
meant, before it meant wh;::t it means now
in the familiar sense as we understand
it, clairvoyance, and nobody finds any
confusion now. Whatever it may· be
known as. let us proceed and not waste
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I am sorry, th;; existence of UFOs is
even nwrc f<:nciful than Giibert and
Sullivan's Ioianthe-charming indeed, but
I am afraid a joke upon your Lordships'
House. I am afraid that some of rny
noble friends join the flat-eartbers, who
will make the best playmates for this
l,particular lobby. We have a duty to the
country to explode the myth. Tonight
we have been carried away in realms of
fascination and delight, but they have
precious little to do with the facts. I
sugge:.t that the myth must be exploded.
We must return to work in this dreary
old world and the difficulties we are in.
But I beg your Lordships, and in particular
the nobie Lord, Lord Strabolgi, fer
heavens' sake, no more Government
Departments of inquiries. That alone
we should be spared as the result of this
excellent debate.
9.55 p.m.
The Earl of CORK and ORRERY: Mv
Lords, I hope that the noble Earl, Lorcl
Clancarty, will not be cast down by the
speech to which he has just listened. I
myself must confess that I know re-
markably little about unidentified flying
objects. I know a few things about them.
I know quite a bit, and I have learned
more since the beginning of this debate,
about attitudes tow11rds them. They are
almost as interesting in some ways. There
is one type of attitude towards them that
I view with respect, and that is the attitude
represented by people who rail themselves,
or perhaps to be fair are called by others,
" ufologists ". I do not know whether
the noble Earl will accept that word.
I rather hope he would not.
I must make a remark-nobody has
done so so far, I suspect rather to his
surprise-about the speech of my noble
friend Lord Trefgarne. If he had been
speaking as a private Back-Bencher l
would probably have not said anything,
but he was speaking from the Dispatch
Box. Therefore, he presumably represents
the views of the Party to which I belong.
It is a view I wish to disown entirely,
Ibecause if a Party of any magnitude
cannot produce better views than that on
a serious subject, I confess I am ashamed
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