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MOD file DEFE 24/2032/1

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This Ministry of Defence file, released through The National Archives and published by The Black Vault, holds the MOD's 2002 handling of Dr David Clarke's requests for UFO documents under the Code of Practice on Access to Government Information. It includes the MOD's 9 December 2002 reply, which covered reports from 1976, 1980, 1993 and 1996 and charged £260. It also contains internal emails and file requisitions, plus Foreign Office and United Nations papers from 1978 on Grenada's proposal for UFO research.

  • p. 7 …The work has taken 21 hours and 20 minutes to complete and as, indicated in my…
  • p. 9 …United Nations to establish an agency or working group for research into UFOs. This was mentioned…
  • p. 19 …United Nations to establish an agency or working group for research A into unidentified flying objects…
  • p. 28 …further re~uests the Con1nittee to submit a pre1 imlru1i:y report on its work by…
  • p. 30 …delegation, with the full support of Premier Gairy, sought to establish an ad hoc working group…
  • p. 38 …out to his co-pilot, First Officer Lee Boyd, The jet pilot's instruments started working…
  • p. 40 …lodestone, was thought to be the I.work of the Devil, as indeed were some of…
  • p. 41 …I acknowledge, how- ever, that, for example, the works of Darwin were once thought incompatible with…
  • p. 45 …at this time, but we should start working for it. If we had a worldwide organisa…
  • p. 46 …He has done a we are studying hagiography-and I had job of work and I…
  • p. 57 …I have noticed that so far none of who might be willing to work for a…
  • p. 58 …ful job for ··or!unity, I •r working re, if that ,; for the 'quircd. I summings…
  • p. 64 …We must return to work in this dreary old world and the difficulties we are in…
  • p. 100 …debate-to pay tribute to the valuable work which broadcasters un- doubtedly play in our society…
  • p. 102 …t Kingdom to study unidentified flying objects, working closely with the French , one. ·:.••i The MINISTER…
  • p. 104 …She has extended and ex-~ objects, working closely with the French panded in the best possible…
  • p. 111 …Every tim~ something appears, we send it to tr~t specialist body which is working, basically…
  • p. 118 …as it can be deduced from the work of the CNES, where Mr Jean-claude Poher…
  • p. 145 …debate-to pay tribute to the valuable work which broadcasters un- doubtedly play in our society…
  • p. 148 …objects, working closely with the French· . ~ •. 9ne. The MINISTER of STATE,' DEPAR,T,~i MENT of…
  • p. 150 …She has extended and ex-, objects, working closely with the French pa.nded ,in the best…
  • p. 160 …Every tim~ something appears, we send it to tl~t specialist body which is working, basically…
  • p. 167 …the phenomenon as it can be deduced from the work of the CNES, where Mr Jean…
  • p. 315 …Unfortunate! y the·· Cl ee-Hi 11 · radar head was not working on primary radar during…
  • p. 383 …during the recording period, therefore, only aircraft working Secondary Surveillance Radar can be seen. 3. Listed…
  • p. 400 …painstaking investigation over a period of 8 working days and, although all the light phenomenae have…
  • p. 405 …observed by all crew members intermittently (busy working the ship) from 0246 til daybreak. - observed about…
  • p. 413 …who axe presumably all quite used to working a.t night and therefore are quite fa…
  • p. 418 ... .,.,--{ ... •. ,,.. tlbdar operators who work routinely in particular areas using the same radar head, as is borne…
  • p. 433 …painstaking investigation over a period of a working days and, although all the light phenomenae have…
  • p. 438 …observed by all crew members intermittently (busy working the ship) from 0246 til daybreak. - observed about…
  • p. 444 …pr~~sum<~~Ul) all quite used to working at night and therefore looking at the sky…
  • p. 449 41bdar operators who work routinely in particular areas using the same radar head, as is borne…
  • p. 460 …I may decide if I wish the work to continue. With reference to your comments in…
  • p. 463 …This estimate indicates the largest period of time that might be required, clearly if the work…
  • p. 472 …of the sum involved in undertaking the work I have requested. If the sum does exceed…
  • p. 477 …I estimate that undertaking the work you have requested will take around 23 hours. Four hours…
  • p. 481 …certain amount of work might cost. "I estimate that undertaking the work you have requested will…
  • p. 486 …Dr Clarke is entitled to the first four hours work free and every following hour (or…
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1281 Unidentified [ 18 JANUARY 1979] Flying Objects 1282
they are terr~strial it~ <?r_i~in, and the only J
extra-tcrrestnal possibilities do not seem
to be fcasibk because of the very eccentric Ipaths which the objects, or iights, which
were seen seem to have taken. But if they I
are terrestrial phenomena, we ought to be
able to identify them.
I believe that any dispassionate investi-
gation, such as I understand the noble
Earl, Lord Clancarty, would wish to have,
could not ignore the possibility of the
phenomena having their origins outside
the earth and perhaps outside the solar
system. Ju~t as meteorites are chance
material projectiles originating in the solar
system, may there not be random matter
of a ditTerent character-perhaps a
luminous but insubstantial character-
that in certain circumstances becomes
visible. and attracted to our area? I
certainly should be readier to accept some
explanation in terms of what I might call
the atsronomical phenomena than ships
from outer space. It would, I suppose,
be foolish to deny that possibility, but as
an explanation of phenomena-and I
think that the noble Lord, Lord Gladwyn,
exposed this-it is surely a very long shot
indeed.
If we are to conduct any dispassionate
inquiry-and I think that we should-we
must listen to the proponents of what one
might call the Star Trek view. It can
be argued, not unreasonably, that we in
our humble way are probing nearby solar
space with our Venus and Jupiter and other
vehicular probes. \Ve have ventured on to
the Moon. ls it not presumptuous, the
argument goes, to suppose that elsewhere
in space creatures more advanced than us
are probing into our space, probing with
means now occasionally visible to us,
using their own RPVs, controlled from
stations light years away, rather on the
lines which the noble Earl, Lord Kimberley,
mentioned? It is a possibility which we
must be prepared to consider. It is a
possibility, though not many of us, I feel,
would call it a probability.
But if we do have a study of UFOs,
as the noble Earl desires, we could not
exclude the possibility of extra-terrestrial
intelligences from our consideration. This
quotation has been given twice this
evening, as well as a dozen times outside
this House in this connection, but,
" There are more things in Heaven and Earth,
Horatio",
Hamlet said,
"than are drearnt of in your philosophy".
And Heaven, my Lords, has always
offered us more pos,ibilities than earth.
Although I remain sceptical of intelligent
invasion from outer space, 1 recall the
dictum of the late Mr. Sherlock Holmes
when he was investigating the curious
matter of the Sign of Four:
" When you have diminated the impossible,
whatever remaim, however improbable, must be
the truth".
The desirability of getting mtional ancl
acceptable expianations for the odd
phenomena which arc being r.;:ported
-even if, like some other para-normal
phenomena, they are subjective--in my
opinion is not, or should not be, merely
to satisfy our curiosity. Here I am
coming from rather a different angle to
something which was discussed in greater
depth by the right reverend Prelate the
Bishop of Norwich.
There is a social danger, in my view,
in leaving people in ignorance of the
origins of these phenomena. I have
recently learned from a number of
sources that there have grown up. in
North America particularly, many groups
and cults whose attitudes arc based on
beliefs that UFOs are influential outer-
spatial manifestations interested in this
earth. In some cases these groups arc
looking to outer space for Man's salvation.
Jf this is right, !t is rather disturbing.
1. find, too, that in this country there
are groups interested, other than purely
scientifically, in the UFO phenomena.
I had a letter--and I think that other
noble Lords may have had the same letter
--earlier this week from an ecumenical
Christian group which believes, among
other things, that UFOs menace the
spiritual health of the nation; that they
are anti-Christian and that information
exists about them which is being withheld.
It seems to me that this association of
UFOs with mysticism and religion makes
explanation of the true origins of the
phenomena a matter of great importance
and of some urgency. The sooner that
each reported sighting or landing is
satisfactorily explained, the better. It
is no good just laughing them off or trying
to laugh them ofr; we must seek the truth
and tell it.
My Lords, I remain sceptical, perhaps
more sceptical than anyone who has
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