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MOD file DEFE 24/2032/1

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This Ministry of Defence file, released through The National Archives and published by The Black Vault, holds the MOD's 2002 handling of Dr David Clarke's requests for UFO documents under the Code of Practice on Access to Government Information. It includes the MOD's 9 December 2002 reply, which covered reports from 1976, 1980, 1993 and 1996 and charged £260. It also contains internal emails and file requisitions, plus Foreign Office and United Nations papers from 1978 on Grenada's proposal for UFO research.

.. i·n;:a.·.. ,. ., . I "'· ··" \\.(' b~~~~ ) (,efore :: be~n ::t! here -:d~ th~t :itl:!bk this i$ ..: ~t~ai!1 \\' th::t c_-~ this cnt. l iy two · skies: ;o~~ of of tho ('hines, . lik:-. ir.J are :1~ the ·.:rhaps J and aero- :ing at ·urnill!! ·hides: up on trick rest rial ink of 1rthern rc are ~1ysic.al r;e of )f the 'or the -l~ not of the '. The much ·e yet n able ortcd, blc in hich I or the htings )COpJe . seem 1gs in ing to e \\·ho ell us. s that ' : '• :._ • ._L, 1281 Unidentified [ 18 JANUARY 1979] Flying Objects 1282 they are terr~strial it~ <?r_i~in, and the only J extra-tcrrestnal possibilities do not seem to be fcasibk because of the very eccentric Ipaths which the objects, or iights, which were seen seem to have taken. But if they I are terrestrial phenomena, we ought to be able to identify them. I believe that any dispassionate investi- gation, such as I understand the noble Earl, Lord Clancarty, would wish to have, could not ignore the possibility of the phenomena having their origins outside the earth and perhaps outside the solar system. Ju~t as meteorites are chance material projectiles originating in the solar system, may there not be random matter of a ditTerent character-perhaps a luminous but insubstantial character- that in certain circumstances becomes visible. and attracted to our area? I certainly should be readier to accept some explanation in terms of what I might call the atsronomical phenomena than ships from outer space. It would, I suppose, be foolish to deny that possibility, but as an explanation of phenomena-and I think that the noble Lord, Lord Gladwyn, exposed this-it is surely a very long shot indeed. If we are to conduct any dispassionate inquiry-and I think that we should-we must listen to the proponents of what one might call the Star Trek view. It can be argued, not unreasonably, that we in our humble way are probing nearby solar space with our Venus and Jupiter and other vehicular probes. \Ve have ventured on to the Moon. ls it not presumptuous, the argument goes, to suppose that elsewhere in space creatures more advanced than us are probing into our space, probing with means now occasionally visible to us, using their own RPVs, controlled from stations light years away, rather on the lines which the noble Earl, Lord Kimberley, mentioned? It is a possibility which we must be prepared to consider. It is a possibility, though not many of us, I feel, would call it a probability. But if we do have a study of UFOs, as the noble Earl desires, we could not exclude the possibility of extra-terrestrial intelligences from our consideration. This quotation has been given twice this evening, as well as a dozen times outside this House in this connection, but, " There are more things in Heaven and Earth, Horatio", Hamlet said, "than are drearnt of in your philosophy". And Heaven, my Lords, has always offered us more pos,ibilities than earth. Although I remain sceptical of intelligent invasion from outer space, 1 recall the dictum of the late Mr. Sherlock Holmes when he was investigating the curious matter of the Sign of Four: " When you have diminated the impossible, whatever remaim, however improbable, must be the truth". The desirability of getting mtional ancl acceptable expianations for the odd phenomena which arc being r.;:ported -even if, like some other para-normal phenomena, they are subjective--in my opinion is not, or should not be, merely to satisfy our curiosity. Here I am coming from rather a different angle to something which was discussed in greater depth by the right reverend Prelate the Bishop of Norwich. There is a social danger, in my view, in leaving people in ignorance of the origins of these phenomena. I have recently learned from a number of sources that there have grown up. in North America particularly, many groups and cults whose attitudes arc based on beliefs that UFOs are influential outer- spatial manifestations interested in this earth. In some cases these groups arc looking to outer space for Man's salvation. Jf this is right, !t is rather disturbing. 1. find, too, that in this country there are groups interested, other than purely scientifically, in the UFO phenomena. I had a letter--and I think that other noble Lords may have had the same letter --earlier this week from an ecumenical Christian group which believes, among other things, that UFOs menace the spiritual health of the nation; that they are anti-Christian and that information exists about them which is being withheld. It seems to me that this association of UFOs with mysticism and religion makes explanation of the true origins of the phenomena a matter of great importance and of some urgency. The sooner that each reported sighting or landing is satisfactorily explained, the better. It is no good just laughing them off or trying to laugh them ofr; we must seek the truth and tell it. My Lords, I remain sceptical, perhaps more sceptical than anyone who has f. . ~· !,'

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