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Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Exposing the Truth (hearing transcript)

U.S. House Committee on Oversight and Accountability · 2024-11-13 · 52 pages · text from the file's own layer

This is the transcript of a joint hearing held November 13, 2024 by two subcommittees of the U.S. House Committee on Oversight and Accountability, chaired by Rep. Nancy Mace. The witnesses were Tim Gallaudet, Luis Elizondo, Michael Shellenberger and Michael Gold. They addressed government secrecy, AARO's transparency, a Pentagon document on the alleged Immaculate Constellation program, threats to pilot safety, and UAP activity near nuclear and military sites. Members also discussed UAP disclosure legislation.

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  • p. 7 …And, in fact, I would add it is critical that we all con- tinue to work…
  • p. 8 …Now, I am proud to say this hearing will build on that important bipartisan work, and…
  • p. 9 …It is very important that we show that Democrats and Repub- licans in Congress can work…
  • p. 10 …I look forward to working with Members of Congress to see if this legislation and other…
  • p. 11 …I personally have worked with multiple Members of this Com- mittee, but I want to particularly…
  • p. 16 …Al- though, much of my government work on the UAP subject still re- mains classified, excessive…
  • p. 21 17 During my work on the UAP independent study team, it quickly became evident that there…
  • p. 24 …I do not know if my fellow witness might want to—he did yeoman’s work…
  • p. 26 …Some people would label you as a member of the deep state since you worked in…
  • p. 29 …I had the privilege and honor of working with him myself several years ago at U…
  • p. 34 …I do not know if many of you have worked with engineers or scientists; they love…
  • p. 40 …Elizondo, you said in your report and your testimony today, ‘‘Government work on UAP subjects still…
  • p. 46 …Elizondo worked, led by Jay Stratton, who had the first comprehensive, whole-of-government approach to…
  • p. 48 …Government or private contractors, do they work with other foreign countries—China, for example—to ex…
  • p. 49 …Lockheed Martin and others do quite a bit of work both in our atmosphere, in space…
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UNIDENTIFIED ANOMALOUS PHENOMENA:
EXPOSING THE TRUTH
Wednesday, November 13, 2024
U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON OVERSIGHT AND ACCOUNTABILITY
SUBCOMMITTEE ON CYBERSECURITY, INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY,
AND GOVERNMENT INNOVATION
JOINTLY, WITH THE
SUBCOMMITTEE ON NATIONAL SECURITY, THE BORDER, AND FOREIGN
AFFAIRS
Washington, D.C.
The Subcommittee met, pursuant to notice, at 11:37 a.m., in
room 2154, Rayburn House Office Building, Hon. Nancy Mace
[Chairwoman of the Subcommittee] presiding.
Present: Representatives Mace, Grothman, Timmons, Burchett,
Higgins, Luna, Biggs, Burlison, Perry, Garcia, Lynch, Moskowitz,
Porter, and Frost.
Also present: Representatives Boebert and Ogles.
Ms. MACE. Good morning. This joint hearing of the Sub-
committee on Cybersecurity, Information Technology, and Govern-
ment Innovation, and the Subcommittee on National Security, the
Border, and Foreign Affairs will come to order.
Good morning and welcome everyone.
Without objection, the Chair may declare a recess at any time,
and I recognize myself for the purpose of making an opening state-
ment right now.
Good morning and welcome to today’s historic hearing, which I
am co-chairing with Mr. Grothman whose subcommittee held an
important hearing on this topic last year.
I want to thank my colleagues and the Oversight Committee, in-
cluding Mr. Burchett, Mr. Burlison, Mrs. Luna, Mr. Moskowitz, Mr.
Garcia, for their relentless drive to get answers on UAPs. They
have been steadfast in demanding transparency on the sightings
reported by military pilots and armed forces. Their commitment to
digging for the truth is exactly what this country needs to cut
through the secrecy surrounding this issue.
And many high-ranking individuals in the military and intel-
ligence communities believe UAPs demand greater attention, and
thus the purpose for this hearing today.

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