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Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Exposing the Truth (hearing transcript)

U.S. House Committee on Oversight and Accountability · 2024-11-13 · 52 pages · text from the file's own layer

This is the transcript of a joint hearing held November 13, 2024 by two subcommittees of the U.S. House Committee on Oversight and Accountability, chaired by Rep. Nancy Mace. The witnesses were Tim Gallaudet, Luis Elizondo, Michael Shellenberger and Michael Gold. They addressed government secrecy, AARO's transparency, a Pentagon document on the alleged Immaculate Constellation program, threats to pilot safety, and UAP activity near nuclear and military sites. Members also discussed UAP disclosure legislation.

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  • p. 7 …And, in fact, I would add it is critical that we all con- tinue to work…
  • p. 8 …Now, I am proud to say this hearing will build on that important bipartisan work, and…
  • p. 9 …It is very important that we show that Democrats and Repub- licans in Congress can work…
  • p. 10 …I look forward to working with Members of Congress to see if this legislation and other…
  • p. 11 …I personally have worked with multiple Members of this Com- mittee, but I want to particularly…
  • p. 16 …Al- though, much of my government work on the UAP subject still re- mains classified, excessive…
  • p. 21 17 During my work on the UAP independent study team, it quickly became evident that there…
  • p. 24 …I do not know if my fellow witness might want to—he did yeoman’s work…
  • p. 26 …Some people would label you as a member of the deep state since you worked in…
  • p. 29 …I had the privilege and honor of working with him myself several years ago at U…
  • p. 34 …I do not know if many of you have worked with engineers or scientists; they love…
  • p. 40 …Elizondo, you said in your report and your testimony today, ‘‘Government work on UAP subjects still…
  • p. 46 …Elizondo worked, led by Jay Stratton, who had the first comprehensive, whole-of-government approach to…
  • p. 48 …Government or private contractors, do they work with other foreign countries—China, for example—to ex…
  • p. 49 …Lockheed Martin and others do quite a bit of work both in our atmosphere, in space…
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C O N T E N T S
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Hearing held on November 13, 2024 ...................................................................... 1
WITNESSES
Dr. Tim Gallaudet, Rear Admiral, U.S. Navy (RET.), Chief Executive Officer,
Ocean STL Consulting, LLC
Oral Statement ........................................................................................................ 9
Mr. Luis Elizondo, Author, and Former Department of Defense Official
Oral Statement ........................................................................................................ 11
Mr. Michael Shellenberger, Founder of Public
Oral Statement ........................................................................................................ 13
Mr. Michael Gold, Former NASA Associate Administrator of Space Policy
and Partnerships, Member of NASA UAP Independent Study Team
Oral Statement ........................................................................................................ 16
Opening statements and the prepared statements for the witnesses are avail-
able in the U.S. House of Representatives Repository at: docs.house.gov.
INDEX OF DOCUMENTS
* Mellon Hearing Letter; submitted by Rep. Mace.
* Documents related to UAPs; submitted by Rep. Burchett.
* Report, Pentagon, ‘‘Immaculate Constellation’’; submitted by Rep. Mace.
* Questions for the Record: to Mr. Elizondo; submitted by Rep. Burlison.
* Questions for the Record: to Dr. Gallaudet; submitted by Rep. Burlison.
* Questions for the Record: to Mr. Shellenberger; submitted by Rep.
Burlison.
* Questions for the Record: to Mr. Gold; submitted by Rep. Burlison.
The documents listed above are available at: docs.house.gov.

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