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Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Exposing the Truth (hearing transcript)

U.S. House Committee on Oversight and Accountability · 2024-11-13 · 52 pages · text from the file's own layer

This is the transcript of a joint hearing held November 13, 2024 by two subcommittees of the U.S. House Committee on Oversight and Accountability, chaired by Rep. Nancy Mace. The witnesses were Tim Gallaudet, Luis Elizondo, Michael Shellenberger and Michael Gold. They addressed government secrecy, AARO's transparency, a Pentagon document on the alleged Immaculate Constellation program, threats to pilot safety, and UAP activity near nuclear and military sites. Members also discussed UAP disclosure legislation.

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  • p. 4 …Michael Gold, Former NASA Associate Administrator of Space Policy and Partnerships, Member of NASA UAP Independent…
  • p. 13 …Michael Gold, a former NASA official who was also a member of the NASA UAP inde…
  • p. 16 …Currently, the White House, CIA, NASA, the Pentagon, Depart-
  • p. 20 16 STATEMENT OF MICHAEL GOLD FORMER NASA ASSOCIATE ADMINISTRATOR SPACE POLICY AND PARTNERSHIPS AND MEMBER OF…
  • p. 21 …In order to effectively collect UAP data, the independent study team recommended the use of NASA…
  • p. 24 …Gold, did the NASA independent study team get briefed on what you call AAWSAP? Very quickly…
  • p. 33 …During a hearing, NASA Administrator Nelson affirmed the importance of NASA in helping us to understand…
  • p. 34 …As I described, NASA has whole archives of data, much of which, I be- lieve, will…
  • p. 35 …And relative to science, Congressman, if I can say, when NASA studies black holes, when NASA…
  • p. 38 …Gold, in your testimony, you discuss NASA’s Aviation Safety Reporting System, a confidential, nonpunitive reporting…
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C O N T E N T S
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Hearing held on November 13, 2024 ...................................................................... 1
WITNESSES
Dr. Tim Gallaudet, Rear Admiral, U.S. Navy (RET.), Chief Executive Officer,
Ocean STL Consulting, LLC
Oral Statement ........................................................................................................ 9
Mr. Luis Elizondo, Author, and Former Department of Defense Official
Oral Statement ........................................................................................................ 11
Mr. Michael Shellenberger, Founder of Public
Oral Statement ........................................................................................................ 13
Mr. Michael Gold, Former NASA Associate Administrator of Space Policy
and Partnerships, Member of NASA UAP Independent Study Team
Oral Statement ........................................................................................................ 16
Opening statements and the prepared statements for the witnesses are avail-
able in the U.S. House of Representatives Repository at: docs.house.gov.
INDEX OF DOCUMENTS
* Mellon Hearing Letter; submitted by Rep. Mace.
* Documents related to UAPs; submitted by Rep. Burchett.
* Report, Pentagon, ‘‘Immaculate Constellation’’; submitted by Rep. Mace.
* Questions for the Record: to Mr. Elizondo; submitted by Rep. Burlison.
* Questions for the Record: to Dr. Gallaudet; submitted by Rep. Burlison.
* Questions for the Record: to Mr. Shellenberger; submitted by Rep.
Burlison.
* Questions for the Record: to Mr. Gold; submitted by Rep. Burlison.
The documents listed above are available at: docs.house.gov.

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