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Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Exposing the Truth (hearing transcript)

U.S. House Committee on Oversight and Accountability · 2024-11-13 · 52 pages · text from the file's own layer

This is the transcript of a joint hearing held November 13, 2024 by two subcommittees of the U.S. House Committee on Oversight and Accountability, chaired by Rep. Nancy Mace. The witnesses were Tim Gallaudet, Luis Elizondo, Michael Shellenberger and Michael Gold. They addressed government secrecy, AARO's transparency, a Pentagon document on the alleged Immaculate Constellation program, threats to pilot safety, and UAP activity near nuclear and military sites. Members also discussed UAP disclosure legislation.

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  • p. 9 …Additionally, former military pilot Ryan Graves informed us of the limited ways in which the military…
  • p. 16 …mains classified, excessive secrecy has led to grave misdeeds against loyal civil servants, military personnel, and…
  • p. 38 …Now, last year, our Subcommittee heard from two retired Navy pilots, Lieutenant Ryan Graves and Commander…
  • p. 39 …Thank you for what Ryan Graves does. This is a commonsense means to expose the truth…
  • p. 40 …Excessive secrecy has led to grave misdeeds against loyal civil serv- ants, military personnel, and the…
  • p. 49 …There were dozens of these encounters that pilots, friends of Ryan Graves, who is in this…
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C O N T E N T S
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Hearing held on November 13, 2024 ...................................................................... 1
WITNESSES
Dr. Tim Gallaudet, Rear Admiral, U.S. Navy (RET.), Chief Executive Officer,
Ocean STL Consulting, LLC
Oral Statement ........................................................................................................ 9
Mr. Luis Elizondo, Author, and Former Department of Defense Official
Oral Statement ........................................................................................................ 11
Mr. Michael Shellenberger, Founder of Public
Oral Statement ........................................................................................................ 13
Mr. Michael Gold, Former NASA Associate Administrator of Space Policy
and Partnerships, Member of NASA UAP Independent Study Team
Oral Statement ........................................................................................................ 16
Opening statements and the prepared statements for the witnesses are avail-
able in the U.S. House of Representatives Repository at: docs.house.gov.
INDEX OF DOCUMENTS
* Mellon Hearing Letter; submitted by Rep. Mace.
* Documents related to UAPs; submitted by Rep. Burchett.
* Report, Pentagon, ‘‘Immaculate Constellation’’; submitted by Rep. Mace.
* Questions for the Record: to Mr. Elizondo; submitted by Rep. Burlison.
* Questions for the Record: to Dr. Gallaudet; submitted by Rep. Burlison.
* Questions for the Record: to Mr. Shellenberger; submitted by Rep.
Burlison.
* Questions for the Record: to Mr. Gold; submitted by Rep. Burlison.
The documents listed above are available at: docs.house.gov.

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