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This is the transcript of a joint hearing held November 13, 2024 by two subcommittees of the U.S. House Committee on Oversight and Accountability, chaired by Rep. Nancy Mace. The witnesses were Tim Gallaudet, Luis Elizondo, Michael Shellenberger and Michael Gold. They addressed government secrecy, AARO's transparency, a Pentagon document on the alleged Immaculate Constellation program, threats to pilot safety, and UAP activity near nuclear and military sites. Members also discussed UAP disclosure legislation.
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14 elements within the military and the IC are in violation of their constitutional duty to notify Congress of their operations. President-elect Donald Trump and former President Barrack Obama have both said that the government has information about UAPs that it has not released. There are other explanations for UAPs, that they represent a new form of life or nonhuman life. Current dominant alternative theories, including those put forward by AARO, are that UAPs are some kind of natural phenomenon we do not yet understand, like ball lighting or plasma. They could also be part of some new U.S. or foreign government weapons program, such as drones, aircraft, balloons, CGI hoaxes, or birds. Whatever UAPs are, Congress must be informed, as must the people of the United States. We have a right to know what UAPs are, no matter what they are. However, we now have existing and former U.S. Government offi- cials who have told Congress that AARO and the Pentagon have broken the law by not revealing a significant body of information about UAPs, including military intelligence data bases that have evidence of their existence as physical craft. One of those individuals is a current or former U.S. Government official acting as a UAP whistleblower. This person has written a report. This is the report that says the executive branch has been managing UAP/NHI issues without congressional knowledge, over- sight, or authorization for some time, quite possibly decades. Furthermore, these individuals have revealed the name of an ac- tive and highly secretive DoD unacknowledged special access pro- gram, or USAP. The source of that document told Public, me, that the USAP is a strategic intelligence program that is part of the U.S. military family of longstanding, highly sensitive programs dealing with various aspects of the UAP problem. The new UAP whistleblower claims that the U.S. military and IC data base includes videos and images taken using infrared, for- ward-looking infrared, full motion video, and still photography. The report that was just shared with Congress says Immaculate Constellation serves as a central or parent USAP that consolidates observations of UAPs by both tasked and untasked collection plat- forms. Immaculate Constellation includes high-quality imagery intel- ligence and measurement and signature intelligence of UAPs, the whistleblower’s report adds. The sources of this intelligence are a blend of directed and incidental collection capacities, capabilities, position in low Earth orbit, the upper atmosphere, as well as mili- tary and civilian aviation altitudes and maritime environments. The report to Congress details in detail various UAPs, including spheres/orbs, discs/saucers, ovals, triangles, boomerang/arrowhead, and irregular/organic. The report describes various incidents found in the human intelligence data bases. One involved orbs surrounding and forcing an F–22 out of its pa- trol area. In another incident, the crew of a Navy aircraft carrier watched a small orange/red sphere rapidly descend from a high al- titude of 100 to 200 yards directly above the flight deck of the CVN aircraft carrier.
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