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Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Exposing the Truth (hearing transcript)
U.S. House Committee on Oversight and Accountability · 2024-11-13 · 52 pages · text from the file's own layer
This is the transcript of a joint hearing held November 13, 2024 by two subcommittees of the U.S. House Committee on Oversight and Accountability, chaired by Rep. Nancy Mace. The witnesses were Tim Gallaudet, Luis Elizondo, Michael Shellenberger and Michael Gold. They addressed government secrecy, AARO's transparency, a Pentagon document on the alleged Immaculate Constellation program, threats to pilot safety, and UAP activity near nuclear and military sites. Members also discussed UAP disclosure legislation.
“Works”15 pages
- p. 7 …And, in fact, I would add it is critical that we all con-
tinue to work…
- p. 8 …Now, I am proud to say this hearing will build on that
important bipartisan work, and…
- p. 9 …It is very important that we show that Democrats and Repub-
licans in Congress can work…
- p. 10 …I
look forward to working with Members of Congress to see if this
legislation and other…
- p. 11 …I personally have worked with multiple Members of this Com-
mittee, but I want to particularly…
- p. 16 …Al-
though, much of my government work on the UAP subject still re-
mains classified, excessive…
- p. 21 17
During my work on the UAP independent study team, it quickly
became evident that there…
- p. 24 …I do not know
if my fellow witness might want to—he did yeoman’s work…
- p. 26 …Some people would label you as a member of the deep state
since you worked in…
- p. 29 …I had the privilege and honor of
working with him myself several years ago at U…
- p. 34 …I do not know if many of you have worked with
engineers or scientists; they love…
- p. 40 …Elizondo, you said in your report and your testimony
today, ‘‘Government work on UAP subjects still…
- p. 46 …Elizondo worked, led by Jay Stratton, who had
the first comprehensive, whole-of-government approach to…
- p. 48 …Government or private contractors, do
they work with other foreign countries—China, for example—to ex…
- p. 49 …Lockheed Martin and others do quite a bit of
work both in our atmosphere, in space…
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UNIDENTIFIED ANOMALOUS PHENOMENA:
EXPOSING THE TRUTH
JOINT HEARING
BEFORE THE
SUBCOMMITTEE ON CYBERSECURITY, INFORMATION
TECHNOLOGY, AND GOVERNMENT INNOVATION
AND THE
SUBCOMMITTEE ON NATIONAL SECURITY,
THE BORDER, AND FOREIGN AFFAIRS
OF THE
COMMITTEE ON OVERSIGHT AND
ACCOUNTABILITY
U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
ONE HUNDRED EIGHTEENTH CONGRESS
SECOND SESSION
NOVEMBER 13, 2024
Serial No. 118–135
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