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Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Exposing the Truth (hearing transcript)

U.S. House Committee on Oversight and Accountability · 2024-11-13 · 52 pages · text from the file's own layer

This is the transcript of a joint hearing held November 13, 2024 by two subcommittees of the U.S. House Committee on Oversight and Accountability, chaired by Rep. Nancy Mace. The witnesses were Tim Gallaudet, Luis Elizondo, Michael Shellenberger and Michael Gold. They addressed government secrecy, AARO's transparency, a Pentagon document on the alleged Immaculate Constellation program, threats to pilot safety, and UAP activity near nuclear and military sites. Members also discussed UAP disclosure legislation.

  • p. 7 …We are all reading it in real time now, and Mr. Burchett will enter it into…
  • p. 13 …Let me remind the witnesses that we have read your written statements, and they will appear…
  • p. 14 …The email was addressed to all the subordinate commanders, and the subject line read, in all…
  • p. 22 …Are you read into secret UAP crash retrieval programs? Mr. ELIZONDO. We would have to have…
  • p. 26 …Omaha incident in greater detail? I have read your background, right. Some people would label you…
  • p. 32 …And let me just state for the record, I never read the report that—or the…
  • p. 37 …nesses—and I had a chance to read all the testimony before. But just to set…
  • p. 40 …No, I did not, sir, because I inferred, since I had been read in to other…
  • p. 41 …But I just want to read a couple things from Mr. Shellenberger’s—what he gave…
  • p. 45 …Just from what I read in the news. Mr. TIMMONS. Just from what you have read…
  • p. 47 …data or vis- ual evidence like sonar readings or underwater footage of these UAPs? Mr. SHELLENBERGER…
  • p. 48 …Elizondo, were you read in to the Immaculate Constellation program? Mr. ELIZONDO. Ma’am, I would…
U.S. GOVERNMENT PUBLISHING OFFICE
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UNIDENTIFIED ANOMALOUS PHENOMENA:
EXPOSING THE TRUTH
JOINT HEARING
BEFORE THE
SUBCOMMITTEE ON CYBERSECURITY, INFORMATION
TECHNOLOGY, AND GOVERNMENT INNOVATION
AND THE
SUBCOMMITTEE ON NATIONAL SECURITY,
THE BORDER, AND FOREIGN AFFAIRS
OF THE
COMMITTEE ON OVERSIGHT AND
ACCOUNTABILITY
U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
ONE HUNDRED EIGHTEENTH CONGRESS
SECOND SESSION
NOVEMBER 13, 2024
Serial No. 118–135
Printed for the use of the Committee on Oversight and Accountability
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