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Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Implications on National Security, Public Safety, and Government Transparency (hearing transcript)

U.S. House Committee on Oversight and Accountability · 2023-07-26 · 54 pages · text from the file's own layer

This is the printed transcript of a July 26, 2023 hearing before the House Committee on Oversight and Accountability's Subcommittee on National Security, the Border, and Foreign Affairs, chaired by Rep. Glenn Grothman. Ryan Graves, David Grusch and retired Navy Commander David Fravor testified on unidentified anomalous phenomena. Members pressed for transparency, whistleblower protection and better pilot reporting. Graves described a near mid-air collision with a dark cube inside a clear sphere off the Eastern Seaboard.

  • p. 9 …eyewitnesses’ accounts made by credible wit- nesses such as doctors, pilots, scientists, and active-duty service…
  • p. 10 …Now, our witnesses will testify today that UAPs have posed a se- rious safety threat and…
  • p. 13 …Navy F–18 pilot with his own UAP experience. The next witness, David Grusch, is a…
  • p. 14 …It silences commercial pilots who fear profes- sional repercussions, discourages witnesses, and is only com- pounded…
  • p. 15 …The majority of witnesses are commercial pilots at major airlines. Often, they are veterans with decades…
  • p. 18 …Years later, I was contacted by the other pilot, Alex Dietrich, and asked if I would…
  • p. 19 …Are your pilots, or pilots that you interact with as part of your organization, do you…
  • p. 22 …I will continue to say that the commercial pilots that have reached out to me through…
  • p. 23 …The objects that are being seen by commercial pilots are performing maneuvers that are unexplainable due…
  • p. 25 …Fravor, do you believe that you witnessed an additional ob- ject under the water in relation…
  • p. 26 …Are there common characteristics to the UAPs that have been cited by different pilots and can…
  • p. 42 …One of the pilots goes to check out that diamond formation and sees a large floating…
  • p. 43 …Chairman, and good morning to our witnesses who are testifying today. I want to thank each…
  • p. 50 …Graves, you said that there are dozens of fellow pilots, military pilots. Are there also commercial…
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UNIDENTIFIED ANOMALOUS PHENOMENA:
IMPLICATIONS ON NATIONAL SECURITY,
PUBLIC SAFETY, AND GOVERNMENT
TRANSPARENCY
HEARING
BEFORE THE
SUBCOMMITTEE ON NATIONAL SECURITY,
THE BORDER, AND FOREIGN AFFAIRS
OF THE
COMMITTEE ON OVERSIGHT
AND ACCOUNTABILITY
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
ONE HUNDRED EIGHTEENTH CONGRESS
FIRST SESSION
JULY 26, 2023
Serial No. 118–53
Printed for the use of the Committee on Oversight and Accountability
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