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This is the printed transcript of a July 26, 2023 hearing before the House Committee on Oversight and Accountability's Subcommittee on National Security, the Border, and Foreign Affairs, chaired by Rep. Glenn Grothman. Ryan Graves, David Grusch and retired Navy Commander David Fravor testified on unidentified anomalous phenomena. Members pressed for transparency, whistleblower protection and better pilot reporting. Graves described a near mid-air collision with a dark cube inside a clear sphere off the Eastern Seaboard.
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5 As Representative Burchett just referenced on the FAA bills that just went through, you can tell that that is exactly happening. Considering the thousands of testimoneys and videos taken on people’s phones and eyewitnesses’ accounts made by credible wit- nesses such as doctors, pilots, scientists, and active-duty service members, it is unacceptable to continue to gaslight Americans into thinking that this is not happening or that the potential of intel- ligent life forms exist other than humans. Even more alarming is the fact that these eyewitnesses are, many times, service members and have no assurance that their lives will not be negatively impacted or even harmed by their expe- riences. In being an active-duty service member working on an airfield, I have had conversations with many pilots where they were in fear of coming forward for retribution and/or being taken off flight sta- tus. How do we know this? Because the government has said nothing to assure us otherwise. They have also done nothing to calm the concerns of over 20 percent of Americans who have reported to have seen UFOs or UAPs. We are simply told not to question the government and that the government has it under control. Today is the first hearing of its kind where we will attempt to get down to the bottom of what is actually happening with UAPs. But we will hear from people who have had personal sightings rather than Pentagon bureaucrats who have always been sent to stonewall our investigations. Just so that the press knows, and the people know, we were even denied access to a classified briefing in a SCIF prior to this hearing due to the amount of hoops that we had to jump through to grant temporary clearance to witness Grusch, who has knowledge of clas- sified information. It is time to have an open-minded discussion on this topic, to hear the evidence and understand the magnitude of what this means not just for our Nation but for humanity. Thank you, Chairman. I yield back the rest of my time. Mr. GROTHMAN. Thank you very much. And I would like to thank you and Mr. Burchett for bringing this topic to my attention. Now we will recognize National Security Subcommittee Ranking Member Garcia for 10 minutes. Mr. GARCIA. Well, thank you, Mr. Chairman, and I want to thank first our witnesses for joining us today. I want to begin by thanking you all for your service to our country and for sharing your voices today and your courage to be here as well. To Mr. Graves, I am particularly grateful to you to spend some time that we had for you to share with candor some of your experi- ences. So, I appreciate that as well. I do want to thank all the Members of our Subcommittee today and also those that are here and have waived on for their incred- ible interest in this issue, particularly to Congressman Burchett. I know that your leadership has brought us to this place today and I want to thank you for that as well as everyone else that has been engaged in this work. I also want to thank the Oversight staff who I know has been working very hard to ensure that today’s hearing is serious, that
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