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Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Implications on National Security, Public Safety, and Government Transparency (hearing transcript)

U.S. House Committee on Oversight and Accountability · 2023-07-26 · 54 pages · text from the file's own layer

This is the printed transcript of a July 26, 2023 hearing before the House Committee on Oversight and Accountability's Subcommittee on National Security, the Border, and Foreign Affairs, chaired by Rep. Glenn Grothman. Ryan Graves, David Grusch and retired Navy Commander David Fravor testified on unidentified anomalous phenomena. Members pressed for transparency, whistleblower protection and better pilot reporting. Graves described a near mid-air collision with a dark cube inside a clear sphere off the Eastern Seaboard.

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“Encounters”11 pages

  • p. 10 …Now, pilots have reported encounters for years and because of the stigma around reporting these incidents…
  • p. 14 …tary veterans who have confided their similar encounters with me. Today I would like to highlight…
  • p. 15 …Soon these encounters became so frequent that aircrew would discuss the risk of UAP as part…
  • p. 19 …trained and briefed on how to handle encounters with UAPs? Mr. GRAVES. No. Right now, military…
  • p. 20 …Was this incident the only UAP event that you encountered while you were a pilot? Commander…
  • p. 21 …30 pilots right now that have had encounters with UAPs. But you have also, I believe…
  • p. 22 …not pi- lots who may have UAP encounters? Do either of you have any sug- gestions…
  • p. 25 …Graves, you reported UAP encounters during training flights, I think, and have since come forward to…
  • p. 26 …system- atic inventory of all of such encounters. Is that right? Mr. GRAVES. Yes, and I…
  • p. 44 …It took over 15 years for your encounter with the Tic Tac to be declassified. Do…
  • p. 50 …I wonder was this the first time that you encountered a UFO or a UAP in…

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