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Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Implications on National Security, Public Safety, and Government Transparency (hearing transcript)

U.S. House Committee on Oversight and Accountability · 2023-07-26 · 54 pages · text from the file's own layer

This is the printed transcript of a July 26, 2023 hearing before the House Committee on Oversight and Accountability's Subcommittee on National Security, the Border, and Foreign Affairs, chaired by Rep. Glenn Grothman. Ryan Graves, David Grusch and retired Navy Commander David Fravor testified on unidentified anomalous phenomena. Members pressed for transparency, whistleblower protection and better pilot reporting. Graves described a near mid-air collision with a dark cube inside a clear sphere off the Eastern Seaboard.

  • p. 13 …Fravor has his own UAP experience known as the Tic Tac event. I look forward to…
  • p. 17 …We continued down another 270 degrees, nose low, where the Tic Tac would have been. Our…
  • p. 18 …In closing, I would like to say that the Tic Tac object we engaged in 2004…
  • p. 20 …Fravor, the Tic Tac incident that you were engaged occurred in 2004. What kind of reporting…
  • p. 24 …Fravor, I noticed that in the Tic Tac video—it is Tic Tac like the candy…
  • p. 25 …We actually joked that the Tic Tac was communicating with something when we came back and…
  • p. 29 …So, we got within a half mile of the Tic Tac, which people say that is…
  • p. 43 …ever seen an object that looked and moved like the Tic Tac UAP? Commander FRAVOR. No.
  • p. 44 …Did the Tic Tac UAP move in such a way that defied the laws of physics…
  • p. 45 …Commander Fravor, we have all seen this floating Tic Tac video that you en- gaged with…
  • p. 46 …In your belief is this flying Tic Tac—I mean, is this—is it capable of…
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COMMITTEE ON OVERSIGHT AND ACCOUNTABILITY
JAMES COMER, Kentucky, Chairman
JIM JORDAN, Ohio
MIKE TURNER, Ohio
PAUL GOSAR, Arizona
VIRGINIA FOXX, North Carolina
GLENN GROTHMAN, Wisconsin
GARY PALMER, Alabama
CLAY HIGGINS, Louisiana
PETE SESSIONS, Texas
ANDY BIGGS, Arizona
NANCY MACE, South Carolina
JAKE LATURNER, Kansas
PAT FALLON, Texas
BYRON DONALDS, Florida
KELLY ARMSTRONG, North Dakota
SCOTT PERRY, Pennsylvania
WILLIAM TIMMONS, South Carolina
TIM BURCHETT, Tennessee
MARJORIE TAYLOR GREENE, Georgia
LISA MCCLAIN, Michigan
LAUREN BOEBERT, Colorado
RUSSELL FRY, South Carolina
ANNA PAULINA LUNA, Florida
CHUCK EDWARDS, North Carolina
NICK LANGWORTHY, New York
ERIC BURLISON, Missouri
JAMIE RASKIN, Maryland, Ranking Minority
Member
ELEANOR HOLMES NORTON, District of
Columbia
STEPHEN F. LYNCH, Massachusetts
GERALD E. CONNOLLY, Virginia
RAJA KRISHNAMOORTHI, Illinois
RO KHANNA, California
KWEISI MFUME, Maryland
ALEXANDRIA OCASIO-CORTEZ, New York
KATIE PORTER, California
CORI BUSH, Missouri
JIMMY GOMEZ, California
SHONTEL BROWN, Ohio
MELANIE STANSBURY, New Mexico
ROBERT GARCIA, California
MAXWELL FROST, Florida
SUMMER LEE, Pennsylvania
GREG CASAR, Texas
JASMINE CROCKETT, Texas
DAN GOLDMAN, New York
JARED MOSKOWITZ, Florida
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SUBCOMMITTEE ON NATIONAL SECURITY, THE BORDER, AND FOREIGN AFFAIRS
GLENN GROTHMAN, Wisconsin, Chairman
PAUL GOSAR, Arizona
VIRGINIA FOXX, North Carolina
CLAY HIGGINS, Louisiana
PETE SESSIONS, Texas
ANDY BIGGS, Arizona
NANCY MACE, South Carolina
JAKE LATURNER, Kansas
PAT FALLON, Texas
KELLY ARMSTRONG, North Dakota
SCOTT PERRY, Pennsylvania
ROBERT GARCIA, California, Ranking Minority
Member
STEPHEN F. LYNCH, Massachusetts
DAN GOLDMAN, New York
JARED MOSKOWITZ, Florida
KATIE PORTER, California
CORI BUSH, Missouri
MAXWELL FROST, Florida
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