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Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (hearing transcript, Subcommittee on Counterterrorism, Counterintelligence, and Counterproliferation, 17 May 2022)

House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence · 2022-05-17 · 53 pages · text from the file's own layer

This is the transcript of the open session of a hearing on unidentified aerial phenomena, held on 17 May 2022 by the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence's Subcommittee on Counterterrorism, Counterintelligence, and Counterproliferation. Under Secretary Ronald Moultrie and Deputy Director of Naval Intelligence Scott Bray testified on the new AOIMSG office, efforts to reduce stigma in reporting, and a UAP database of about 400 reports. Bray showed videos, explained flashing triangles as drones seen through night vision goggles, and called the 2004 Nimitz incident unresolved.

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Mr. Moultrie. If it is officially brought to our attention, we would look at it.
There are many things that are out there in the ether that aren't official brought to our
attention.
Mr. Gallagher. So how would it have to be officially brought to your attention?
I am bringing it to your attention. This is pretty official.
Mr. Moultrie. Sure. So we would like to take a look at it, but generally there is
some authoritative figure that says: There is an incident that occurs. We would like
you to look at this.
But, in terms of just tracking what may be in the media that says that something
occurred at this time, at this place, there are probably a lot of leads that we would have
to follow up on. I don't think we are resourced to do that right now.
Mr. Gallagher. Well, I don't claim to be an authoritative figure, but for what it is
worth, I would like you to look into it.
Mr. Moultrie. Sure.
Mr. Gallagher. If for no other reason, you can dismiss it and say this is not worth
wasting resources on.
Mr. Moultrie. Will do.
Mr. Gallagher. And, finally, are you aware of a document that appeared around
2019 sometimes called the Admiral Wilson memo or EW Notes Memo?
Mr. Moultrie. I am not. Are you?
Mr. Bray. I am not personally aware of that.
Mr. Gallagher. Okay. This is a document against -- again, I am not commenting

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